@scottalanmiller said in Why I Feel KVM Is the Easiest HyperVisor to Learn the Basics On:

And I think that VMware, through many market changes, is moving more and more into the "small, but better deployment space." Fewer deployments to maintain, but those that remain are better, and I'm sure pay more. Not entirely unlike Microsoft moving customers from perpetual licenses to O365 - it actually decreased their market penetration, by a lot, but it increased revenue and decreased cost. Big wins, but market share went down.
That's where I see Vmware. Market share is shrinking, it's not the go to product any more. But better customers, at higher revenue. That's better for Vmware.

I think though that on-premises workload while not shrinking are not keeping pace with cloud-hosted workloads. Now plenty of those workloads end up on clouds running vSphere, but even those that do not can still end up managed by VMware. VMware is more than vSphere.

NSX-T/VeloCloud runs just fine on Public Cloud, Containers, even KVM etc. I've seen iSCSI from vSAN shared to bare metal Oracle RAC clusters. Airwatch (leading MDM platform) has really nothing to do with vSphere. WaveFront at purchase couldn't even inject metrics from vSphere and it was a while before they added it (It's focused on application telemetry and ML of that datasets). VMware Horizon View can run on Azure, and the CMP products can manage Azure/AWS etc also. CloudHealth provides compliance across all public clouds also. With the Outpost announcement, I will be able to run vSphere, on AWS leased hardware that's installed in my own datacenter and consume EBS volumes into vSAN while layering AWS RDS on top to provide Postgres or Oracle databases as part of a blueprint to a Project Tango application stack for the ultimate multi-vendor meta sandwich... Spending over a billion on R&D, and a few billion on M&A gets you some damn nice toys

@scottalanmiller said in Why I Feel KVM Is the Easiest HyperVisor to Learn the Basics On:

Right, but how did they get your number? How did they get through to IT? Someone had to sell your information to them for them to have it. There is no global list of businesses to magically call to find out what people use. And the average business couldn't even answer what they use, so how do they filter the results?
Humans guessing what is used results in some pretty bad IT info. Just look at SW surveys again. When we know who is answering, we often saw people getting their own environment info wrong because they weren't understanding what they had.

You are correct that the list of secret squirrel/spies would be poorly covered by any market survey with calls to customers. Now IDC also tracks sales into the channel so if the licensing was sold through say CDW-G executing through IngramMicro as a distributor IDC isn't going to know that it was sold to the FBI, but they will know that xxxx number of units was moved.

Now if your argument is that you are secret squirrels who:

1. Are committed to never purchasing anything from a company or distribution.

2. obfuscating downloads and compiling all security updates from source to avoid incrementing the download counters.

3. Always using burner emails and phone numbers whose contact information never ends up on one of the bazillion marketing (note all it takes is you forget to uncheck a box once in your career) that exist are not surveyed that might be true.

4. Disable all phone home, and kill any support telemetry features.

It's true there are some mimes running around forests, but I would argue tracking people who are spending zero dollars on software isn't really what IDC's goal is to do in their software revenue tracking metrics...

@scottalanmiller said in Why I Feel KVM Is the Easiest HyperVisor to Learn the Basics On:

Those are paid results and have no place in a discussion with IT.

Gartner has much more of its monetization tied to the companies it's providing MQ's about (and the lack of disclosure is... interesting). IDC not so much. I'm pretty sure more money for them comes from Investment bankers.

@scottalanmiller said in Why I Feel KVM Is the Easiest HyperVisor to Learn the Basics On:

A CUSTOMER, right. That's the thing, they call CUSTOMERS. People using KVM or Xen aren't customers. That's the trick that they play. Where do you think that they got your number?

They were asking me primarily about Citrix which I didn't use so I'm going to say Not Citrix (Survey was about application streaming). I was using RDSH and we discussed that.

@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Just gave my morning "What did you do yesterday" report. Most of the lines were:

-Worked ticket #: User claimed X, but [the opposite of X] was happening.

You got to do that every day? That must be exhausting.

We did that weekly at IBM. Wasted SO much time.

Daily SCRUM isn't terrible (3 questions, only committed talked). Daily status meetings are hell.

@eddiejennings said in Resume Critique:

Part of me believes it's a liability as so far all I've done is create / destroy VMs in a Hyper-V and KVM environment

Go do a few of the free Hands on Labs so you can speak to knowing the interface and how things work.
Get your VCP class and cert for a few hundred bucks from vmware.stanly.edu online!

@Obsolesce said in How M$ shakedown stupid corporations:

Azure Resource Manager

Oddly enough I can't find any azure documents that abbreviate it (They always use the full product name for this reason).

Still back to the origional post. Is OP Seriously expecting new features on his 10 year old car?

@scottalanmiller said in Ajit Pai wants to raise rural broadband speeds from 10Mbps to 25Mbps:

Or those who live in an area with AT&T, Comcast, Cox, Frontier, or any rural area and get zero of the innovation.
From Houston to rural NY, none of that stuff has existed and zero innovation or competition comes along. It's a rare, very unique market where those innovations have affected anyone for a long time.

I have two providers offering me Gigabit service in Houston. As 5G comes online I'll be looking at 3-4 providers with 500Mbps+ Speeds. Waco while not truly rural is is a 5G test site for AT&T.

Modulva is LTE only in major cities. Rural coverage is HSDPA primarily, and for small villages and rural area's, it's xDSL.

The Reality is I can stream 3D 4K video on my existing 120 meg down circuit. Really the draw of the newer stuff for me is lower latency, and distributed service meshes embedded in the network slices.

@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@storageninja said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

yum, lassi

What drink is that? It looks like an Indian tea/milk thing I've had before

He is in India.

Bangalore this week, and I've had quite a few Lassi's.

@Obsolesce said in How M$ shakedown stupid corporations:

It runs on a highly-customized extremely hardened and stripped-down version of Hyper-V basically, but that is where all similarities end. The management layer on top of that is ARM.

ARM isn't a management layer, it's a processor architecture. They might use an ARM processor for an out of band controller (I suspect that is what most out of band controllers run with the exception of whatever the hell is the custom silicon used for AWS Nitro).

@r3dpand4 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

not if you read SW, you'd think no SMB knows to patch and those that do can never get downtime for them.

That's because they don't want to work nights or weekends.

If only there was a way to schedule updates to run outside of business hours.....

When you have to manufacture in Asia, and trucks back up if they can't print labels at 3AM US time you stop having "outside of business hours". An increasing amount of (even Small business's) don't have clear gaps, and you need someone to be ready to "fix" things if that patching fails, or brings something down.

You can have monitoring systems that will trigger a TAS to page the on-call, but if that fails there is nothing worse than waking up at 7AM and discovering the entire office is dead in the water. Follow the sun operations are bleeding into more and more companies.

 yum, lassi

@scottalanmiller said in Why I Feel KVM Is the Easiest HyperVisor to Learn the Basics On:

IDC surveys of WHOM? Anyone ever heard of someone in the real world getting an IDC survey?

Yup, got a phone call from them when I was a customer. Asked me 20 questions, sent me a $100 gift card I think it was.

@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

If Hyper-V was Windows, it wouldn't need Windows in the Dom0. It's specifically that it isn't that that is required.

Now I'm lost - Hyper-V still has a Dom0 even when installed as pure Hyper-V?

You never question why for a Hyper-V Core required so much damn install space? The Management VM (DOM0) just runs headless.

Leaving Houston and going to India for two weeks (Bangalore, New Dehli, some random park in the north).

@scottalanmiller said in Why I Feel KVM Is the Easiest HyperVisor to Learn the Basics On:

In the REAL world, MOST people don't touch their virtualization environments. They install and leave it. In the enterprise and bigger spaces, or for MSPs, we touch them a lot. For MOST people, they basically never look at them again. People who work in IT often get obsessed with features that normal shops never look at and we deal mostly with systems that we are touching and forget how little the average system gets touched.

If your talking embedded OEM stuff, the era of SCADA and forget it, is coming to an end. I know Honeywell is uber obsessive about getting those boxes updated. The general shift for embedded appliances is them joining the Internet of Shit, so lifecycle is becoming a bigger deal.

If you're talking about the market share of free hypervisors that are deployed and never get a security patch or any maintenance and are managed by muppets.... Fine. KVM can have that market. Who knows maybe they have 100% of it today. I'd argue broken clusters based on Hyper-V 2008 (Which should have been called a beta product) did more to damage their market shares going forward. Being the king of the misfit toy deployments is dangerous. It works if your goal is ship "good enough" and hope to dilute undermine a market, but for anyone who has high needs they will associate that product with muppet levels of uptime (even if the product isn't that bad). It's kind of like why EMC/HDS never let a customer deploy their own VMAX/VSP. When the $$$ they make is from being able to talk about crazy high uptime, fewer better deployments is far better for marketing than lots of broken ones.

@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

It's sad to see Xen go for historical reasons. But logically, the field has too many players. Consolidation is needed. Xen and KVM are already both from the Linux Foundation and XenServer has just driven Xen into the ground. It's horrible that so much went into Xen and now it is being lost, but the better thing for everyone would be for the Xen team to be folded into the KVM team and just focus on a single thing going forward.

Linus never was a fan of Xen I've heard (KVM got it's bits into the kernel first, while there was some snobbery about the quality of Xen's commits).

@scottalanmiller said in Websites like Mangolassi or Spiceworks:

But it could be consistent, it's just not. The volunteers actually great more need for moderation than they fix, I think.

You think
The issue with moderation is without something that tracks what's deleted you can't actually know. 99% of what I deleted when I was involved heavily over there was...

1. Spam (And by Spam, I mostly mean like Escort services, crazy non-related stuff).
2. Obvious sock puppets.
3. Duplicate posts.
4. Someone engaging in Ad Hominem attacks against someone other than me (I would just make fun of you, and call out your shitty rhetoric). You can attack idea's, you can't attack people.

@coliver said in VMware vSphere Update Manager Client - Is there a version 6.5?:

@storageninja said in VMware vSphere Update Manager Client - Is there a version 6.5?:

@wrx7m Always hated CIP myself also. The standalone update utility is gone. You can use VUM through the web client. Also, try out the HTML5 client while you are at it. It's nice in 6.5

Is VUM in the HTML5 client? I haven't seen it in ours that's why I'm questioning it.

If you want the newest builds, run the fling in a separate VM. It gets updates every 2 weeks. I don't think VUM is in H5 yet, but it's obviously highly requested.

The lifecycle stuff has been slower because they are trying to re-work those workflows to be easier/more logical/holistic.

@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

@black3dynamite said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

@black3dynamite said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:

Why is it not possible to customize Xen to work with the custom Intel-made processing?

It is, but it is much harder. Xen is more complex in that way. And I'm sure a big piece is that they had to make a decision now as to if they should customize Xen or KVM. So if they were thinking that the time was coming to make the switch, this would be what triggered it to be "now" rather than "soon."

Besides para-virtualization, what other reasons to stick with Xen at all? APIs for Xen? Just in case a job require the need for Xen?

PV tech is the big piece. Other than that, Xen has fallen behind KVM, mostly due to most resources being focused on KVM for a long time now.

Xen's biggest strength was it's API's but performance wise it was getting slaughtered by modern KVM and ESXi on throughput. I saw benchmark testing done by some large ISP for NFV projects and it was brutal. The DOM0 design had some serious bottlenecks, and Xen's PV tech was largely obsoleted by other CPU offload functions. KVM's API's are maturing to the point that it's time for everyone to move on for people looking for an open source platform.