@nadnerB said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Meh ... a Red Eye (some call it a Shot in the Dark) would be a shortcut to this place.
A Black Eye (Double Shot in the Dark?) would bring one to this place and quickly. :0)
@nadnerB said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Meh ... a Red Eye (some call it a Shot in the Dark) would be a shortcut to this place.
A Black Eye (Double Shot in the Dark?) would bring one to this place and quickly. :0)
@gjacobse said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@nadnerB said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
I would go one step farther and uninstall module "work" Sadly that also uninstalls Paychec.exe
One could get very political with this one.
@scottalanmiller said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@PhlipElder said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@scottalanmiller said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@PhlipElder said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@scottalanmiller said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@PhlipElder said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@scottalanmiller said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@PhlipElder said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
Workloads are multiple WordPress sites on one Ubuntu server OS (boy, what a lot of fun it is trying to get any documentation that gives a clear step-by-step ... just blew up the server for the umpteenth time now need to figure out what broke it as search sucks at this point for me) as well as Mastodon.
We'll be setting up some SFTP sites for clients once we get the WordPress sites online.It's not terrible, but yeah, there is a surprising lack of documentation on that. It's like the single most common Linux server task and it seems no one knows how to do it.
I can only imagine that there was a time when everyone knew how to do it and because of that, stopped teaching it, and now no one knows. But you need it constantly.
Wow, no kidding.
The number of "How to set up WordPress multiple sites on one VPS/Ubuntu Server" articles is crazy and they're all somewhat different. Plus, there's "multisite" which is *.domain.com hosting subdomain sites. We don't want that.
Got a good How-To pointer? Please & Thanks?
*Sorry for co-opting the thread.I really need to make one. BUt that's not going to be a "this week" item as I'm in Costa Rica for my anniversary.
My team needs it too. I should be able to hand this stuff off to them easy peasy and I can't.
Happy anniversary. How many years?
Understood.
19 married, 21 together!
Suweet. December is 20 for my wife and I. It's been an amazing ride. :0)
Cool, almost the same. Pre-emptive congrats to you as well.
Ta.
Looking forward. Have lots of surprises for her.
@scottalanmiller said in Need: How-To Step-by-Step for Multiple WordPress sites on Ubuntu 20/22 LEMP:
@PhlipElder said in Need: How-To Step-by-Step for Multiple WordPress sites on Ubuntu 20/22 LEMP:
@PhlipElder said in Need: How-To Step-by-Step for Multiple WordPress sites on Ubuntu 20/22 LEMP:
Wow, talk about documentation fragmentation.
We've installed Ubuntu 22 a number of times reaching various points towards the goal of hosting multiple WordPress sites in a single Ubuntu v22.04 (as of this writing) using one MariaDB instance with multiple databases set up within.
NGINX is set up and the server blocks are in place.
This last go-around we managed to get three sites up and running without issue. Once the fourth went in all of a sudden the server would only serve one of the sites no matter what URL was being requested.
Certificates are being handled by RapidSSL as a personal preference. We've not had any issues there.
Please and thanks.
And, crash and burn again. :0(
As soon as I install the second site the server only pushes the last one set up. sigh
I bet it is a matter of being in alphabetical order. That causes a lot of "mystery" issues in this kind of setup.
I fat fingered it. The ">" at the end of the domain for server_name is what did it.
Since all of the setup files were copy and paste, whenever that got introduced it carried onwards.
Because of the wiring in my head when it happened the first time I didn't see it. So, I flattened everything and started fresh. When it happened the second time I took the time to look at the original reference server block because it was seemingly obvious that I'd done something.
@scottalanmiller said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@PhlipElder said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@scottalanmiller said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@PhlipElder said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@scottalanmiller said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@PhlipElder said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
Workloads are multiple WordPress sites on one Ubuntu server OS (boy, what a lot of fun it is trying to get any documentation that gives a clear step-by-step ... just blew up the server for the umpteenth time now need to figure out what broke it as search sucks at this point for me) as well as Mastodon.
We'll be setting up some SFTP sites for clients once we get the WordPress sites online.It's not terrible, but yeah, there is a surprising lack of documentation on that. It's like the single most common Linux server task and it seems no one knows how to do it.
I can only imagine that there was a time when everyone knew how to do it and because of that, stopped teaching it, and now no one knows. But you need it constantly.
Wow, no kidding.
The number of "How to set up WordPress multiple sites on one VPS/Ubuntu Server" articles is crazy and they're all somewhat different. Plus, there's "multisite" which is *.domain.com hosting subdomain sites. We don't want that.
Got a good How-To pointer? Please & Thanks?
*Sorry for co-opting the thread.I really need to make one. BUt that's not going to be a "this week" item as I'm in Costa Rica for my anniversary.
My team needs it too. I should be able to hand this stuff off to them easy peasy and I can't.
Happy anniversary. How many years?
Understood.
19 married, 21 together!
Suweet. December is 20 for my wife and I. It's been an amazing ride. :0)
@VoIP_n00b said in Need: How-To Step-by-Step for Multiple WordPress sites on Ubuntu 20/22 LEMP:
Why in the world are you doing this all by hand?
https://wordops.net
https://www.cloudpanel.io
https://apiscp.comThis is just a small number of options available... The first two are even free.
Edit: First link is command line only if your stuck on sticking to the command line.
Several reasons. One, I've never been one to get in a car and drive it without considering how it is getting me around. Thus, I can tear down any engine, rebuild it, and put it all back together. That makes troubleshooting all the much easier when things break. It also makes it easier when I want to add a 75lb shot of NOS and 25lbs of direct drive boost.
I like to know how things work. It's always been helpful.
Trust is another. I'm not much on third parties doing things for me especially cloud based ones. My preference is to do it.
Learning to do things in PowerShell has led to being able to charge a standard fee for what was once a long labourious and error prone click process to a few scripts.
By keep track of where things are at, there's less room for error due to distraction.
And now I can say that I know how to do it. Feather in the cap kind of things. :0)
EDIT: That being said, thanks for the pointers. They're pretty neat!
@Pete-S said in Need: How-To Step-by-Step for Multiple WordPress sites on Ubuntu 20/22 LEMP:
@PhlipElder said in Need: How-To Step-by-Step for Multiple WordPress sites on Ubuntu 20/22 LEMP:
@Pete-S said in Need: How-To Step-by-Step for Multiple WordPress sites on Ubuntu 20/22 LEMP:
@PhlipElder said in Need: How-To Step-by-Step for Multiple WordPress sites on Ubuntu 20/22 LEMP:
We've installed Ubuntu 22 a number of times reaching various points towards the goal of hosting multiple WordPress sites in a single Ubuntu v22.04 (as of this writing) using one MariaDB instance with multiple databases set up within.
Just a heads up, but there are actually several reasons to avoid this.
Professional hosting companies for example never do it.
It's simply better to run the sites isolated from each other, for example using VMs or containers like LXC. You can still use a common MariaDB server if you like.
It's more secure and it's more flexible and the overhead is insignificant.
But you may of course have your reasons for wanting to do it
Yeah, I looked into installing the latest package and it didn't want to so I left it.
Reason is n00b. It's a learning process that will give us the foundation to build on as knowledge develops.
Well, we're all beginners at first.
But yeah, you should for sure look at installing ubuntu's nginx package:
apt install nginx
Don't use the nginx' ubuntu package from nginx' repositories. That's for advanced users that use them for specific reasons. They are not the same.
A package contains not just the software needed, but also installations scripts, default configurations and other things. That's why you want to use the official ubuntu package and not nginx' ubuntu package. It significantly increases the chance that you can upgrade your ubuntu server to a newer version without problems.
When searching for installation help, don't search for nginx, search for ubuntu nginx. Check out the link I gave in an earlier post. If a guide uses nginx repositories then look elsewhere.
Always set up the webserver with the different sites first, then look at installing wordpress, mariadb etc.
But yes, installations guides are often a mess. A lot of time people posts guides what worked for them but it's not always the best way or current way of doing things.
Sometimes guides also assumes you having certain packages already installed, which you might not have.
PS. Here is another guide that should work pretty well:
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-nginx-on-ubuntu-22-04
Yeah, this is part of the steps:
@Pete-S said in Need: How-To Step-by-Step for Multiple WordPress sites on Ubuntu 20/22 LEMP:
@PhlipElder said in Need: How-To Step-by-Step for Multiple WordPress sites on Ubuntu 20/22 LEMP:
We've installed Ubuntu 22 a number of times reaching various points towards the goal of hosting multiple WordPress sites in a single Ubuntu v22.04 (as of this writing) using one MariaDB instance with multiple databases set up within.
Just a heads up, but there are actually several reasons to avoid this.
Professional hosting companies for example never do it.
It's simply better to run the sites isolated from each other, for example using VMs or containers like LXC. You can still use a common MariaDB server if you like.
It's more secure and it's more flexible and the overhead is insignificant.
But you may of course have your reasons for wanting to do it
Yeah, I looked into installing the latest package and it didn't want to so I left it.
Reason is n00b. It's a learning process that will give us the foundation to build on as knowledge develops.
@PhlipElder said in Need: How-To Step-by-Step for Multiple WordPress sites on Ubuntu 20/22 LEMP:
@PhlipElder said in Need: How-To Step-by-Step for Multiple WordPress sites on Ubuntu 20/22 LEMP:
Wow, talk about documentation fragmentation.
We've installed Ubuntu 22 a number of times reaching various points towards the goal of hosting multiple WordPress sites in a single Ubuntu v22.04 (as of this writing) using one MariaDB instance with multiple databases set up within.
NGINX is set up and the server blocks are in place.
This last go-around we managed to get three sites up and running without issue. Once the fourth went in all of a sudden the server would only serve one of the sites no matter what URL was being requested.
Certificates are being handled by RapidSSL as a personal preference. We've not had any issues there.
Please and thanks.
And, crash and burn again. :0(
As soon as I install the second site the server only pushes the last one set up. sigh
Axe that.
Dyslexia can be fun and I can have fun with it. But sometimes it really bites as it has in this case.
I had a character in the Server Block name section so www.domain.com>; and could not see it for the life of me.
Something triggered while looking at the Site.Conf file and I saw it finally today.
EDIT: I saw it because I went back to one of the sites I grabbed a Server Block from and went line by line forcing myself to look at every character. /EDIT
Deleted the character from the various .Conf files. So, yeah, copy & paste also bit me here since I was grabbing *.com> and pasting changing the * portion.
Gotta love it! :0)
Feels good though. Onwards and upwards!
@PhlipElder said in Need: How-To Step-by-Step for Multiple WordPress sites on Ubuntu 20/22 LEMP:
Wow, talk about documentation fragmentation.
We've installed Ubuntu 22 a number of times reaching various points towards the goal of hosting multiple WordPress sites in a single Ubuntu v22.04 (as of this writing) using one MariaDB instance with multiple databases set up within.
NGINX is set up and the server blocks are in place.
This last go-around we managed to get three sites up and running without issue. Once the fourth went in all of a sudden the server would only serve one of the sites no matter what URL was being requested.
Certificates are being handled by RapidSSL as a personal preference. We've not had any issues there.
Please and thanks.
And, crash and burn again. :0(
As soon as I install the second site the server only pushes the last one set up. sigh
@PhlipElder Heh ... go figure.
Example for NGINX via their Official Repository:
Option 2: https://nginx.org/en/linux_packages.html#Ubuntu
We will be running with Option 2 shortly.
*EDIT: It worked fine.
Wow, talk about documentation fragmentation.
We've installed Ubuntu 22 a number of times reaching various points towards the goal of hosting multiple WordPress sites in a single Ubuntu v22.04 (as of this writing) using one MariaDB instance with multiple databases set up within.
NGINX is set up and the server blocks are in place.
This last go-around we managed to get three sites up and running without issue. Once the fourth went in all of a sudden the server would only serve one of the sites no matter what URL was being requested.
Certificates are being handled by RapidSSL as a personal preference. We've not had any issues there.
Please and thanks.
@scottalanmiller said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@PhlipElder said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@scottalanmiller said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@PhlipElder said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
Workloads are multiple WordPress sites on one Ubuntu server OS (boy, what a lot of fun it is trying to get any documentation that gives a clear step-by-step ... just blew up the server for the umpteenth time now need to figure out what broke it as search sucks at this point for me) as well as Mastodon.
We'll be setting up some SFTP sites for clients once we get the WordPress sites online.It's not terrible, but yeah, there is a surprising lack of documentation on that. It's like the single most common Linux server task and it seems no one knows how to do it.
I can only imagine that there was a time when everyone knew how to do it and because of that, stopped teaching it, and now no one knows. But you need it constantly.
Wow, no kidding.
The number of "How to set up WordPress multiple sites on one VPS/Ubuntu Server" articles is crazy and they're all somewhat different. Plus, there's "multisite" which is *.domain.com hosting subdomain sites. We don't want that.
Got a good How-To pointer? Please & Thanks?
*Sorry for co-opting the thread.I really need to make one. BUt that's not going to be a "this week" item as I'm in Costa Rica for my anniversary.
My team needs it too. I should be able to hand this stuff off to them easy peasy and I can't.
Happy anniversary. How many years?
Understood.
@scottalanmiller said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
@PhlipElder said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
Workloads are multiple WordPress sites on one Ubuntu server OS (boy, what a lot of fun it is trying to get any documentation that gives a clear step-by-step ... just blew up the server for the umpteenth time now need to figure out what broke it as search sucks at this point for me) as well as Mastodon.
We'll be setting up some SFTP sites for clients once we get the WordPress sites online.It's not terrible, but yeah, there is a surprising lack of documentation on that. It's like the single most common Linux server task and it seems no one knows how to do it.
I can only imagine that there was a time when everyone knew how to do it and because of that, stopped teaching it, and now no one knows. But you need it constantly.
Wow, no kidding.
The number of "How to set up WordPress multiple sites on one VPS/Ubuntu Server" articles is crazy and they're all somewhat different. Plus, there's "multisite" which is *.domain.com hosting subdomain sites. We don't want that.
Got a good How-To pointer? Please & Thanks?
*Sorry for co-opting the thread.
@bbigford said in Misc go-to FOSS options:
I've been wondering about others' preferences on a few things. The landscape of operating systems and databases has changed a bit in the last few years. Not curious about Windows or MSSQL, nothing new there.
Server OS: I've bounched back and forth with CentOS before Stream (the split between 6 and 7 was weird), Ubuntu Server (seems to get a lot of hate, no idea why), Fedora Server (also seems to get some hate, not sure why), RHEL (only when the customer absolutely requires the support and can't convince them otherwise), Debian (not used a ton, not sure why, pretty barebones)
NoSQL DB: MongoDB went through a really shady legal bit when they were doing their as-a-service initially, which basically spelled out they own your IP if you use their DB with your app, haven't checked back to see if that got cleared up. On-prem I've used CassandraDB and MongoDB mainly, and started looking into ScyllaDB more recently.
Relational DB: Defaulted to MySQL until some devs spun off concerned with the Oracle acquisition and started defaulting to MariaDB, mainly see PostgreSQL in larger deployments but don't know much difference to go with one over the other than what a vendor leans toward.
What are some of your go-tos these days? Why?
We've been pushing hard on getting up to speed with Ubuntu starting with 18 then 20 now 22. There are a few quirks with 22 but for the most part it's been stable.
MariaDB is where we went with the backend needs.
We've not had a need to go with anything NoSQL at this point.
Workloads are multiple WordPress sites on one Ubuntu server OS (boy, what a lot of fun it is trying to get any documentation that gives a clear step-by-step ... just blew up the server for the umpteenth time now need to figure out what broke it as search sucks at this point for me) as well as Mastodon.
We'll be setting up some SFTP sites for clients once we get the WordPress sites online.
@Pete-S said in Typical services and software in SMBs?:
@PhlipElder said in Typical services and software in SMBs?:
@Pete-S said in Typical services and software in SMBs?:
Besides the obvious Microsoft/Google/xxx for mail and office apps - what type of services or workloads are SMBs interested in? What are they spending their IT-"budget" on? What kind of business problems are they looking to solve with IT?
I'm wondering because large companies have a lot of problems or opportunities for improvement, but a lot of those comes from the fact that they are large. So small companies wouldn't have the same type of problems.
Some of you work with SMBs all day so I bet you have a pretty good grip of the situation.
Heh, all of our clients are on-premises for mail and collaboration with some being hybrid with Azure AD and O365 strictly for Teams integration.
There's a strong on-premises market niche so we've stuck with it. :0)
Nothing wrong with serving a niche. But I'd say the customers are spending their dollars on mail & office apps - regardless if they're using on-prem or cloud services.
I'd always thought that the ones running on-prem was perhaps medium sized businesses that had enough scale for it to make economic sense.
SPLA cost for Exchange is a few dollars per month. It's not that expensive. Office apps are expensive and always have been no matter where the licensing comes from so that's an acceptable operating expense level for most clients.
@scottalanmiller said in Typical services and software in SMBs?:
@pmoncho said in Typical services and software in SMBs?:
On a side note (very anecdotal), being nice has its benefits. I have seen on numerous occasions and even 3 times in the last month, an ITSP/MSP are nice till they get the account then turn into being total dicks! I don't understand it but it is so close to turning into axiom.
As an MSP, while I believe we are always nice, I can tell you that the customers practically demand this scenario. Time and time again, if you are nice to the client, they dump you for the next abuse dick that comes along, makes obviously false promises, pressures you into tripling your budget and signing long contracts with no protection for you. The average client only wants a vendor that treats them bad. I can't explain it, but the better job you do, the less likely a customer is to keep you. Obviously the great customers aren't like this, but good customers are few and far between. Most want to micromanage and IT is just scapegoat for their own mistakes.
Our longest standing client was is a company I started supporting at the end of 1998. All of our clients would sign a cheque today for anything that would be needed for the IT to function as it has been since we took it over.
We divorced our last abusive client over 10 years ago. IT was a bleed for them so we did a lot of break/fix to the tune of $xKs per month but they would take 90+ days to pay and we'd have to chase them for the cheques.
After getting fed up with them not updating/upgrading their garbage and the payment situation a simple e-mail went out with the following:
Heh, within seconds of hitting SEND they called back. :0)
Boundaries are boundaries. If we get an impression with red flags, my wife and business partner is really good at picking up on them versus myself, then we'll discuss whether it's advisable to pick up the business.
That being said, when we were starting out we took the business that we could and learned through the School of Hard Knocks, sometimes to the tune of substantial loss, all the while figuring out the best way to assess incoming for those flags.
@Pete-S said in Typical services and software in SMBs?:
Besides the obvious Microsoft/Google/xxx for mail and office apps - what type of services or workloads are SMBs interested in? What are they spending their IT-"budget" on? What kind of business problems are they looking to solve with IT?
I'm wondering because large companies have a lot of problems or opportunities for improvement, but a lot of those comes from the fact that they are large. So small companies wouldn't have the same type of problems.
Some of you work with SMBs all day so I bet you have a pretty good grip of the situation.
Heh, all of our clients are on-premises for mail and collaboration with some being hybrid with Azure AD and O365 strictly for Teams integration.
There's a strong on-premises market niche so we've stuck with it. :0)
@pattonb said in ps2 to usb adapters:
Has anybody had success using ps2 to usb adapters ? ( specifically for keyboards)
I have one and can't get the keyboard recognized, I still have a few "favourite" ps2 keyboards. Does it make any sense, to cut off the ps2 end, and replace with usb ?
thanks in advance.
Hanging on to that Fujitsu QWERTY special for that just-in-case moment you need to QWERTY some perp breaking into your office? ;0)
The best keyboard for the buck right now is the Microsoft Surface Ergonomic Keyboard with great key texture and it's Bluetooth so no dongles needed. If a standard style is needed then the Surface Keyboard is great.
I have wrench slinger wrists so an ergonomic is needed for me.
@nadnerB said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Oh by, the person behind that CAT better be careful! :0D