Not yet.

@scottalanmiller There is an issue while installing XO from the source, due to a breaking change in a dependency.

@FATeknollogee said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

If I'm understanding you guys correctly, most of these "features" are available via the XS Community ISO..?

Edited your post and sorted with what I believe is in "free" XenServer vs Enterprise. I'm not 100% sure for everything, but let's say at first sight.

Free :

• Support for SMB storage
• Export Pool Resource Data
• Direct Inspect APIs <- I'm not 100% sure about it, didn't checked yet
• Intel Secure Measured Boot (TXT)

Enterprise:

• Dynamic Workload Balancing (via a Citrix Appliance)
• GPU Virtualization (vGPU) with NVIDIA GRID and Intel GVT-g (well, I don't have the hardware to try it)
• In-memory read caching

I don't know:

• Automated Windows VM Driver Updates
• Automatic updating of the Management Agent
• VMware vSphere to XenServer Conversion utilities (probably provided externally, but I think it's free)

Some features are only in XenServer Enterprise Edition, like GPU sharing using advanced Intel/Nvidia stuff, some load balancing mess in a dedicated appliance and probably other extra services.

Basically, the only thing which is really interesting Citrix is related to XenDesktop/XenApp. For them, XenServer is the "toolbox" able to run the VM which will be, in the end, running your Windows apps remotely.

Hi guys, if there is any VEEAM users (or other popular VM backup products), I'll be happy to have feedback for improving our current VM backup workflow.

See https://github.com/vatesfr/xo-web/issues/999

I mean, it terms of UI, having something easier to understand and manage.

Using XO VM replication between 2 XS 7 hosts, initial copy of a 61GB VM in 8 minutes:

This is on a classic GB link.

Clearly, previous bottlenecks weren't in XO.

I'm not sure. I discovered a lot about the upgrade process just today. I'd love to have more input/doc from Citrix before the D-day, but you know, it's hard to be in the plans of a big corp

Upgraded almost all my systems today

We released a new version of xo-server earlier (~12h ago) to enhance Dundee support.

Also tested XO VM continuous replication every minute on Dundee Beta 3 last week, worked like a charm during all the tests (5 days). XenServer 6.5 failed after 15 min

@wrx7m Thanks for the pricing details, really interesting!

@wrx7m said in Why is VMWare considered so often:

@olivier said in Why is VMWare considered so often:

@wrx7m said in Why is VMWare considered so often:

@coliver Veeam - It is awesome

Without being too off topic, could you list the top 5 things you like the most about VEEAM? This could give me ideas for XO

• As SAM mentioned file level is a huge thing

Makes sense.

• File level exclusions

If you are at file level, logical.

• Agentless, because it uses the VMware API for snapshotting but does use proxies which require a small installer but doesn't need to be on any particular system. Could be virtual or physical. I use virtual because I get better performance if the proxy is on the same host as the source VM.

Wait. It's at the file level and agentless? I don't get it. You didn't installed any VEEAM software neither on VM or hypervisor? ✓

• They keep introducing new features and support for more products

What do you mean by support for more product? Do you have some examples?

• v9 has added scale-out backup repositories, a remote client management console and several storage vendor shapshotting support

What is scale-out backup in few words?

• AD explorer

I don't get the point of this, but I'm not a Windows user. What's the connection with backup?

• Sure backup so you can test your VM backup

It means you import the backup without replacing your original VM, thus you could test it? ✓

• Veeam endpoint free integrates into the Veeam management console.
• Backup copy job allows you to have the completed backup copied to another location and it doesn't affect the production storage because it copies out of the repository.

✓

• They discount licensing for SMB for up to 6 CPU sockets.

I'll check their pricing page, do you have roughly a price in a SMB situation?

Or space before? I can see your account is created in the database.

@Breffni-Potter Let me guess, trailing space in your email?

@scottalanmiller said in Why is VMWare considered so often:

@olivier said in Why is VMWare considered so often:

@Breffni-Potter said in Why is VMWare considered so often:

But what happens when your pool of customers stagnates? Surely that pool of 100k installs needs to get bigger.

That's sweet and candid Do you really think we'll stop there? I said to start and have enough customers to cover our expenses. There is multiple ways to be profitable: increase your conversion rate, increase your average basket, add extra services, expand your product (ie HyperV compatible?).

And XO causes back pressure that propels XS forward. XS has gaps, XO fills them. As that happens, the resistance to XS reduces. But people don't go to XO and say "I want XO, what hypervisor do they support." They compare XS to ESXi and XO helps to make sure that XS has features that ESXi can't touch.

Exactly. Win win for us and Citrix.

@Breffni-Potter said in Why is VMWare considered so often:

But what happens when your pool of customers stagnates? Surely that pool of 100k installs needs to get bigger.

That's sweet and candid Do you really think we'll stop there? I said to start and have enough customers to cover our expenses. There is multiple ways to be profitable: increase your conversion rate, increase your average basket, add extra services, expand your product (ie HyperV compatible?).

@Breffni-Potter The one on the big screenshot you have posted yourself (the email received).

@Breffni-Potter

1. Do you see the big red button? Just click on the link just 10px on top, you know, the one with "More documentation? Go read it here"
2. The point is we are mainly targeting XenServer users. Why? Works out-of-the-box with them, market around 100k installs. Do you really think a company like ours can compete directly with VMWare or Microsoft? This is a niche strategy, the only solution to start on the market without raising 100M$ on the first round. I admit this is more a business reason than anything else, so it's possible it only makes sense after having the explanations.
3. Fair point and that's why we are designing a new UI. Especially on the infrastructure size, the goal is now to provide something scalable for our customers from small to huge VMs number (approx from 1 to 5000 VMs)

@scottalanmiller I assume it's possible thanks to an agent in the VM?

Well, I like challenges, I could imagine a way to read the VM blocks and read the underlying FS to display files. But that would be something a bit complicated ^^

@wrx7m said in Why is VMWare considered so often:

@coliver Veeam - It is awesome

Without being too off topic, could you list the top 5 things you like the most about VEEAM? This could give me ideas for XO

@Breffni-Potter I have no idea of what you are talking about. The official doc is here: https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/

@Breffni-Potter I'm eager to hear things that you think really useful in UI as a VM admin, to improve XO