@jmoore said in Phone system:

@bigbear Yeah I was thinking it would probably save a lot of money for us to not use a hosted solution. The phone lady says we pay around 20k a year for our legacy cisco system. Even a cloud setup like Eddie does should be doable for us.

Thanks for the info about SwitchVox. Someone else told me that their demo doesnt usually reflect what they are selling. As in, you have to buy a lot more to get what the demo shows. So who knows. I was asked to help again as they did not make a decision last time either.

I would expect $4,000 price tag for a small business with 10 people, plus the phones... so not sure how they would approach a school system but certainly would be a waste of money.

And I agree a paid hosted solution for a school system would likely be a waste of money mostly because of the per-extension pricing.

FreePBX is a PITA to update IMO, I would get a guy like @JaredBusch on retainer to handle it monthly whether on premise or in the cloud. Even in the cloud I bet a school would have very little traffic. You would be in control but its handy to have someone who can jump in with a quick fix where you might spend days trying to figure something out.

@jmoore said in Phone system:

I don't think my school wants to host their pbx software. So for around 300 users who is generally the top provider these days?

There is nothing bad about loading up a freepbx instance on a premise virtual server in your situation. Could still just as easily work from the cloud as @EddieJennings has done.

Switchvox was pretty amazing 10 years ago, way ahead of its time. It looked like Google made a fancy new phone system. Doesnt relate to FreePBX though, they have their own platform and its pretty costly to license and most of the features and benefits are for sales organizations.

5 sold, 3 more pending and may only have 1 left, if anyone is still interested.

Thanks!

@jaredbusch said in Uninstalled Yealink T58V for old Key System:

@bigbear said in Uninstalled Yealink T58V for old Key System:

@jaredbusch said in Uninstalled Yealink T58V for old Key System:

@bigbear said in Uninstalled Yealink T58V for old Key System:

Got a few inquiries on price.

I will do $155/each plus shipping. I don’t not have the original boxes to ship in.

That’s pretty cheap considering they cost $280 new and I think retail well above that.

If anyone’s in Ohio local pickup is welcome!

Awesome price, but I do not have anyone that wants video yet. I would love this for ourselves because we all work from home, but the owner doesn't agree.

Where is your employer based out of anyway? There is no HQ, all remote?

Yes, all remote. Business address is the owner's personal address. He's finally decided that he needs to do something about that and is looking at address services.

Been this way since 1986 or so.

I think it makes sense, you been with them that long? Is it one region or states apart?

Edit: guess you’d be like 12 in ‘86

@gjacobse said in Uninstalled Yealink T58V for old Key System:

I don't @scottalanmiller would go for them... Heck - I can't blame him... Who'd want to see me on their phone:

The best part of wakin up is SAM drinking folders in your... Android Based IP Phone?

@jaredbusch said in Uninstalled Yealink T58V for old Key System:

@bigbear said in Uninstalled Yealink T58V for old Key System:

Got a few inquiries on price.

I will do $155/each plus shipping. I don’t not have the original boxes to ship in.

That’s pretty cheap considering they cost $280 new and I think retail well above that.

If anyone’s in Ohio local pickup is welcome!

Awesome price, but I do not have anyone that wants video yet. I would love this for ourselves because we all work from home, but the owner doesn't agree.

Where is your employer based out of anyway? There is no HQ, all remote?

@jaredbusch said in Uninstalled Yealink T58V for old Key System:

@bigbear said in Uninstalled Yealink T58V for old Key System:

Got a few inquiries on price.

I will do $155/each plus shipping. I don’t not have the original boxes to ship in.

That’s pretty cheap considering they cost $280 new and I think retail well above that.

If anyone’s in Ohio local pickup is welcome!

Awesome price, but I do not have anyone that wants video yet. I would love this for ourselves because we all work from home, but the owner doesn't agree.

I should have been harder on them about their choice of phone from the get go. I blame me. Its definitely more of a phone for remote workers.

@wrx7m said in Potential Office365 (Exchange Online) Throttling Issue:

@bigbear said in Potential Office365 (Exchange Online) Throttling Issue:

I like either the Azure method or the MigrationWiz. With the latter you can migrate ahead of time and sync up after the switch or do a dial tone migration if you don’t have the time to plan.

Azure is more work but when migration hundreds of large mailboxes it’s better than the outlook import method.

Soemthing to note, when you migrate a premise exchange server you get full speed upload automatically from MS.

Seems like with the limits raised we complete Terrabytes of mail migrations over a weekend without anyone left behind. I’ll have to pay attention next weekend on what speeds were seeing in live migration.

I was in hybrid mode and it still took a long time.

I did not have that experience, have done it twice.

@brrabill said in Potential Office365 (Exchange Online) Throttling Issue:

@wrx7m said in Potential Office365 (Exchange Online) Throttling Issue:

They are throttling. I just went through a 100 mailbox migration and a user with a 15 GB mailbox took 3 days. I have a 150/150 Mbps dedicated fiber circuit.

Yeah this is basically what I am saying.

Plus these "higher speeds" they discuss are with concurrent users.

So that could be why. If you happen to have 100 users and they are all 5GB mailboxes you will complete over a weekend.

You have 100 users with 20GB mailboxes, you are in for a world of hurt.

Definitely completing multiple 20Gb mailboxes over a weekend.

Got a few inquiries on price.

I will do $155/each plus shipping. I don’t not have the original boxes to ship in.

That’s pretty cheap considering they cost $280 new and I think retail well above that.

If anyone’s in Ohio local pickup is welcome!

Actually uninstalled these over the weekend and put Iwatsu phones in place for a customer who just really wanted the 4-line phones backs.

So I have 9, nearly new T58V Yealink phones with no boxes. Will sell or trade for... ?

Apparently Microsoft Teams Edition is coming for these...

I like either the Azure method or the MigrationWiz. With the latter you can migrate ahead of time and sync up after the switch or do a dial tone migration if you don’t have the time to plan.

Azure is more work but when migration hundreds of large mailboxes it’s better than the outlook import method.

Soemthing to note, when you migrate a premise exchange server you get full speed upload automatically from MS.

Seems like with the limits raised we complete Terrabytes of mail migrations over a weekend without anyone left behind. I’ll have to pay attention next weekend on what speeds were seeing in live migration.

@scottalanmiller said in DKIM records Office 365:

@momurda said in DKIM records Office 365:

What do you mean failure of SPF?

Failed to take off, perhaps.

See original post I corrected it, failure of SenderID made SPF a lot less meaningful, and no one has attempted a replacement.

So the reply address is only validated when the recipient replies....

@momurda said in DKIM records Office 365:

What do you mean failure of SPF? The only failure in SPF i see is from people using Office 365, where anybody in the world using Office 365 can pass spf checks for anybody else using Office 365. For people not using Office 365 SPF is great. I turned on SPF when i started here, instantly stopped all the fake company emails to customers and internal users.

Should say because of the failure of SenderID.

And because SenderID is dead SPF is crippled to do what you claim. Also what spoof emails were you getting en mass, from what domains.

And Office 365 is not crippled by this, thisveoupd be a failure to configure policy and use of dmarc. The same is true of any mass email provider like g suite.

Sorry for brevity - on mobile

I am willing to bet the email that was spoofed used OAUTH or some other attack method. You should really dig past this for more details and get the original messages, would love to see the headers from the spoofed messages.

Its great that "bobs nephew is google security" but insist that they let you do your job.

Quick reference:

DMARC: Tells remote servers if your domain is using SPF and/or DKIM

SenderID: Was like caller ID for SPF, but caused a lot of grief.

SPF: Almost irrelevant since the failure of SPF SenderID

DKIM: Uses a public/private key setup similar to PGP that uses domain keys for key exchange and sends an encrypted signature that can be decrypted and validated from a public key.

None of these are going to do much to block the types of attacks you would see these days.

@scottalanmiller said in DKIM records Office 365:

@dbeato said in DKIM records Office 365:

@scottalanmiller said in DKIM records Office 365:

@dashrender said in DKIM records Office 365:

@scottalanmiller said in DKIM records Office 365:

@dashrender said in DKIM records Office 365:

@jaredbusch said in DKIM records Office 365:

@bigbear said in DKIM records Office 365:

@joel said in DKIM records Office 365:

I was asked to setup DKIM records for Office 365.

Unless, are they asking you to configure DKIM so that another service you are using can send email on behalf of your domain?

Most likely he was asked because someone hear dabout some shiny new thing and said do it.

DKIM and SPF help so little IMO.

Exactly - email vendors don't want to be accused of not delivering mail.. so they can't really live and die by DKIM and SPF.

My guess is that it is mostly used by SMBs where people tend to get overly concerned about security, mistake how email works and think that things like this are some sort of requirement, and start blocking anyone not doing it.

So what's the big boys solution to spam then?

Useful things Like actually scanning the email to look for patterns. DKIM and SPF aren't bad, but they're unofficial and don't address the actual problem but attempt to address an artefact of the problem. And they do literally nothing against the worst spammers, like Source Media, who use all addresses covered by things like this.

But so far even ML has an SPF, so it wouldn't be that bad eh?

It doesn't hurt to have it. But it's not very important.

I would say that SenderID is dead, hence SPF has little affect on the initial delivery of your email and is only used when someone is replying to your message.

DMARC and DKIM are more relevant to setup with your primary provider and has benefits.

But I think Scott is saying SPF and even DKIM do little to actually stop spam, and SenderID is a dead project so SPF does nothing at all. And I agree.

@scottalanmiller said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:

@bigbear said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:

Also no support for virtual desktops without profile containers is a deal breaker for me as you know love my Remote Desktop Servers...

Not sure how OneNote does it, but we use NextCloud with remote desktop and it works great.

It has to do with RDSH where evern dropbox.com can not run in multiple sessions. Or is you deploy RDS where images and profiles assemble and boot up for login, it requires something like profile containers from fslogix to work.

RDP itself to a windows 10 machine is not problem.

Unless I am not catching your meaning...

@scottalanmiller said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:

@bigbear said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:

@dbeato said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:

@bigbear said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:

@dbeato said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:

@bigbear said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:

ituations like these I have been using Azure Files. The SMB 3.0 stuff allows you to map drives directly to the cloud and you get the usual SMB features (and file locking). You can also install a premise server for caching of larger active datasets. SMB 3.0 includes all the good stuff from the Storsimple acquisition. Combine with Azure Domain Servers and Azure Active Directory, lots of options.

For that, I would recommend enabling Recycle Bin of the whole Sharepoint Share and also users will get versioning instead of locking as you stated.

Sharepoint versioning doesn’t help in an excel spreadsheet that is constantly being updated, there would just be versions with disparate data.

Azure Files on a decent internet connection feels just like a file server. Was skeptical at first but haven’t had any issues yet.

Oh believe me, a real file server is way better and yes it would render better results.

Nothing like telling customers they are getting upgraded to the cloud only to realize their synced folder sucks compared to their 10 year old file server lol.

Synced folders should have local speed. That sounds like a Windows syncing problem if they aren't screaming fast.

Not talking about speed, that’s fine. The lack of file locking for many small businesses the use excel heavily is insurmountable. Opening in multi user mode is a possible solution but even for me has been unreliable.

Also no support for virtual desktops without profile containers is a deal breaker for me as you know love my Remote Desktop Servers...

@dbeato said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:

@bigbear said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:

@dbeato said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:

@bigbear said in Mapping OneDrive Business to a drive letter:

ituations like these I have been using Azure Files. The SMB 3.0 stuff allows you to map drives directly to the cloud and you get the usual SMB features (and file locking). You can also install a premise server for caching of larger active datasets. SMB 3.0 includes all the good stuff from the Storsimple acquisition. Combine with Azure Domain Servers and Azure Active Directory, lots of options.

For that, I would recommend enabling Recycle Bin of the whole Sharepoint Share and also users will get versioning instead of locking as you stated.

Sharepoint versioning doesn’t help in an excel spreadsheet that is constantly being updated, there would just be versions with disparate data.

Azure Files on a decent internet connection feels just like a file server. Was skeptical at first but haven’t had any issues yet.

Oh believe me, a real file server is way better and yes it would render better results.

Nothing like telling customers they are getting upgraded to the cloud only to realize their synced folder sucks compared to their 10 year old file server lol.

@brrabill said in Potential Office365 (Exchange Online) Throttling Issue:

@dbeato said in Potential Office365 (Exchange Online) Throttling Issue:

@brrabill said in Potential Office365 (Exchange Online) Throttling Issue:

You uploaded a file that was .6 MB

How is it going, I didn't even know you had a thread on this and I told you the same thing about PST

It ended up taking about 70 minutes, but it completed. Now I have to look at the file and compare folders and see if everything copied over, especially since the PST file sizes were reported as different.

Was that the test upload or the 20Gb file