@scottalanmiller said in Linux (CentOS) - fetchmail and mail spool:
@anthonyh said in Linux (CentOS) - fetchmail and mail spool:
Can someone change the category to "IT Discussion", pretty please? I thought that's what I selected, but obviously not.
Moved
Thanks, @scottalanmiller!
Can someone change the category to "IT Discussion", pretty please? I thought that's what I selected, but obviously not.
I have a script put together that parses attachments out of emails and uploads them to a database. Recently, some emails that came through were not processed properly. Since the script runs unattended and my logging is not the best (is on my list of todos to fix), I want to re-process one of the problemed emails via running the script manually. Simple enough?
Well, at first, fetchmail would not retrieve the message at all since it had already "seen" it previously. I figured out that adding --fetchall would force fetchmail to re-download the message. However, even though fetchmail seems to go through the motions of retrieving the aforementioned message, it is not in the mail spool.
If I send new (unique) messages to the account the script watches, fetchmail downloads the message without issue and I see it in the mail spool.
There must be something I'm missing between fetch mail and the user's mail spool, but I'm not sure where to go next.
Any ideas?
@jaredbusch said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
There has always been a third party rack mount solution for the ERL and ERPoE form factor.
Orinigally designed for the ToughSwitch series
That's pretty cool! I had no idea such an animal exists.
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@jaredbusch said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
There is no such product as the ERPro PoE
My bad. I've been meaining ERPoe-5.
OK, I think I fixed my blunder everywhere I could.
@jaredbusch said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
There is no such product as the ERPro PoE
My bad. I've been meaining ERPoe-5.
@dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
Why move away from the ERPro8? The OS on the other ER is the same.
I would either be going ERPro PoE -> ASA5510 or ERPro PoE -> ERPro8.
Likely going to do the latter.
Right, my question is - why? If you go the ASA, I get it, you're changing vendors (i.e. new interface), but if going to the ERPro8, why? do you need the extra ports? If not, there's nothing to gain by moving to the ERPro8 over the ERPro POE.
The biggest advantage is the ERPro8 is rack mountable. Also, the ERPro8 does have a little more horsepower behind it but whether or not it'd be noticable in my environment is another story. I suspect if I wanted to do any sort of VPN tunneling it may fair a little better, but that's just a guess. So, mostly because it's rack mountable.
Single VPN would likely not matter at all. JB has shown that if you turn on QoS or other features that an ER-L can slow down (line speed can drop from 1 Gb/s to something like 650 Mb/s - as JB for real numbers). So the ERPro8 might matter here if you do these things, and you have a pipe greater than 650 Mb/s - which you said you'd top out around 100/30, so not likely to affect you.
If I mentioned anywhere that I'd top out around 100/30, that's not correct (maybe you're inadvertently mixing this thread with another?). In terms of Internet service, I would likely top out around 300/10 (most my cable provider will do...and I may take them up on it just because). However, I may want to play with different firewall zones and could see wanting to throw traffic between zones at wirespeed (or as fast as the configuration will allow).
Aside from all that, I like that 1) it's a nice rack-mountable form factor, and 2) I'm not spending any money to get it.
I suppose I should've mentioned that I would be inheriting these devices. No out-of-pocket money on my part (other than the gas to get them home and recurring power bill to keep them on). 
@dave247 said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
Why move away from the ERPro8? The OS on the other ER is the same.
I would either be going ERPro PoE -> ASA5510 or ERPro PoE -> ERPro8.
Likely going to do the latter.
Right, my question is - why? If you go the ASA, I get it, you're changing vendors (i.e. new interface), but if going to the ERPro8, why? do you need the extra ports? If not, there's nothing to gain by moving to the ERPro8 over the ERPro POE.
The biggest advantage is the ERPro8 is rack mountable. Also, the ERPro8 does have a little more horsepower behind it but whether or not it'd be noticable in my environment is another story. I suspect if I wanted to do any sort of VPN tunneling it may fair a little better, but that's just a guess. So, mostly because it's rack mountable.
Just buy a rackable tray for the ASA
You're probably thinking of the ASA5505. The ASA5510 is already rack mountable. It's a 1U beast.
@dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
Why move away from the ERPro8? The OS on the other ER is the same.
I would either be going ERPro PoE -> ASA5510 or ERPro PoE -> ERPro8.
Likely going to do the latter.
Right, my question is - why? If you go the ASA, I get it, you're changing vendors (i.e. new interface), but if going to the ERPro8, why? do you need the extra ports? If not, there's nothing to gain by moving to the ERPro8 over the ERPro POE.
The biggest advantage is the ERPro-8 is rack mountable. Also, the ERPro-8 does have a little more horsepower behind it but whether or not it'd be noticable in my environment is another story. I suspect if I wanted to do any sort of VPN tunneling it may fair a little better, but that's just a guess. So, mostly because it's rack mountable.
@dashrender said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
Why move away from the ERPro8? The OS on the other ER is the same.
I would either be going ERPoe-5 -> ASA5510 or ERPoe-5 -> ERPro-8.
Likely going to do the latter.
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I am curious to know...how is knowing EdgeOS is more useful than ASA software?
Because one is the "most applicable to the SMB market" of any product in the category. The other borders on being the least
Thinking SMB, this makes perfect sense. No way in [insert expletive] I would make a SMB sell their soul for Cisco gear when other gear would be just as good (or better) at a fraction of the cost.
Does getting bigger than SMB suddenly make ASA make sense when it does less?
I would have to compare hardware specs and throughput capabilities to really make a determination on that. If they can both process the same number of packets per second (or at least meet the requirements of the organization), then of course not.
Oh no, it's not even close. The Ubiquiti's claim to fame is its ability to destroy the Cisco in performance. That's specifically why the ASA is seen as such a joke, it's SO slow - without being $20 which is what it should be considering the performance.
Oh? Did someone do some sort of benchmark comparison or something? If so, I'd love to read/see it.
Found your thread, actually: https://mangolassi.it/topic/14570/comparing-ubiquiti-edgerouter-and-cisco-asa-pps-performance-and-cost
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I am curious to know...how is knowing EdgeOS is more useful than ASA software?
Because one is the "most applicable to the SMB market" of any product in the category. The other borders on being the least
Thinking SMB, this makes perfect sense. No way in [insert expletive] I would make a SMB sell their soul for Cisco gear when other gear would be just as good (or better) at a fraction of the cost.
Does getting bigger than SMB suddenly make ASA make sense when it does less?
I would have to compare hardware specs and throughput capabilities to really make a determination on that. If they can both process the same number of packets per second (or at least meet the requirements of the organization), then of course not.
Oh no, it's not even close. The Ubiquiti's claim to fame is its ability to destroy the Cisco in performance. That's specifically why the ASA is seen as such a joke, it's SO slow - without being $20 which is what it should be considering the performance.
Oh? Did someone do some sort of benchmark comparison or something? If so, I'd love to read/see it.
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I want to continually improve my skill set in ways that directly benefts my current employer, but I also don't want to be someone who wears blinders to the various options one has for solutions to things like network gear and whatnot.
I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
Well think of it this way... your employer currently uses neither. So learning either for your employer's current needs is moot. One is highly applicable as to something that would be a great choice for your employer in the future; the other is not.
Hm, I suppose this is one way to think about it.
What's the other way? LOL
Some sort of random number generator (coin flip)?
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I am curious to know...how is knowing EdgeOS is more useful than ASA software?
Because one is the "most applicable to the SMB market" of any product in the category. The other borders on being the least
Thinking SMB, this makes perfect sense. No way in [insert expletive] I would make a SMB sell their soul for Cisco gear when other gear would be just as good (or better) at a fraction of the cost.
Does getting bigger than SMB suddenly make ASA make sense when it does less?
I would have to compare hardware specs and throughput capabilities to really make a determination on that. If they can both process the same number of packets per second (or at least meet the requirements of the organization), then of course not.
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I want to continually improve my skill set in ways that directly benefts my current employer, but I also don't want to be someone who wears blinders to the various options one has for solutions to things like network gear and whatnot.
I'll probably go with the ERPro8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPro PoE in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
Well think of it this way... your employer currently uses neither. So learning either for your employer's current needs is moot. One is highly applicable as to something that would be a great choice for your employer in the future; the other is not.
Hm, I suppose this is one way to think about it.
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
I am curious to know...how is knowing EdgeOS is more useful than ASA software?
Because one is the "most applicable to the SMB market" of any product in the category. The other borders on being the least
Thinking SMB, this makes perfect sense. No way in [insert expletive] I would make a SMB sell their soul for Cisco gear when other gear would be just as good (or better) at a fraction of the cost.
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@anthonyh said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
@mike-davis said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
Easy decision for me. I have no need to learn Cisco stuff because I don't have any clients with a Cisco router. What is your client base/environment?
Well, I'm not an MSP or work for one, or contractor of any sort, so my one client (my organization) uses Cisco switches and routers across the board (I would change this if it were within my power, but it's a long story), and Fortinet firewalls. Previous to the Fortinets we were using ASAs.
So that pretty much answers that. Neither applies at all, so use what is good for you
Well, the point of my post was to get the (very appreciated) feedback from y'all.
I want to continually improve my skill set in ways that directly benefts my current employer, but I also don't want to be someone who wears blinders to the various options one has for solutions to things like network gear and whatnot.
I'll probably go with the ERPro-8 mostly for the fact that it's nowhere near as power hungry as the ASA. I'm currently using an ERPoe-5 in my home setup and have no complaints. It has served me well.
@mike-davis said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
Easy decision for me. I have no need to learn Cisco stuff because I don't have any clients with a Cisco router. What is your client base/environment?
Well, I'm not an MSP or work for one, or contractor of any sort, so my one client (my organization) uses Cisco switches and routers across the board (I would change this if it were within my power, but it's a long story), and Fortinet firewalls. Previous to the Fortinets we were using ASAs.
@scottalanmiller said in Cisco ASA5510 vs Ubiquiti ERPro8:
The Ubiquiti is the more powerful and higher quality (IMHO) gear. The Cisco has no applicability in the SMB market, but is widely used by shops getting sold gear by resellers. The skill set of the Cisco is more sellable, the skill set of the Ubiquiti is more useful. The Ubiquiti is better for actually using at home, the Cisco is better in the singular case of wanting to learn more about Cisco.
Well, to a certain extent, I do need to keep my resume as sellable as possible.
I am curious to know...how is knowing EdgeOS is more useful than ASA software?
