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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in There has to be a better way:

      @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

      Does the VM I want to work from need to be offline?

      When attaching the disk? yes.

      why? You can add new disks to VMWare while a VM is running without any issues. I'm pretty sure you can attach a pre-existing partition as well.

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      • coliverC
        coliver @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said in There has to be a better way:

        @scottalanmiller said in There has to be a better way:

        @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

        Does the VM I want to work from need to be offline?

        When attaching the disk? yes.

        why? You can add new disks to VMWare while a VM is running without any issues. I'm pretty sure you can attach a pre-existing partition as well.

        You can do the same in XenServer. At least with Windows as the guest. I haven't tried it with Linux.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said in There has to be a better way:

          @Dashrender said in There has to be a better way:

          @scottalanmiller said in There has to be a better way:

          @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

          Does the VM I want to work from need to be offline?

          When attaching the disk? yes.

          why? You can add new disks to VMWare while a VM is running without any issues. I'm pretty sure you can attach a pre-existing partition as well.

          You can do the same in XenServer. At least with Windows as the guest. I haven't tried it with Linux.

          You can't however do this if the source drive is running on a separate VM. (That VM must be powered off).

          Which is what I did in order to do this.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said in There has to be a better way:

            @Dashrender said in There has to be a better way:

            @scottalanmiller said in There has to be a better way:

            @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

            Does the VM I want to work from need to be offline?

            When attaching the disk? yes.

            why? You can add new disks to VMWare while a VM is running without any issues. I'm pretty sure you can attach a pre-existing partition as well.

            You can do the same in XenServer. At least with Windows as the guest. I haven't tried it with Linux.

            Linux can do that, just needs a SCSI Scan run.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

              @coliver said in There has to be a better way:

              @Dashrender said in There has to be a better way:

              @scottalanmiller said in There has to be a better way:

              @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

              Does the VM I want to work from need to be offline?

              When attaching the disk? yes.

              why? You can add new disks to VMWare while a VM is running without any issues. I'm pretty sure you can attach a pre-existing partition as well.

              You can do the same in XenServer. At least with Windows as the guest. I haven't tried it with Linux.

              You can't however do this if the source drive is running on a separate VM. (That VM must be powered off).

              Which is what I did in order to do this.

              Right, unless you unmount the source drive first. I don't even think VMWare can reliably do this.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said in There has to be a better way:

                @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

                @coliver said in There has to be a better way:

                @Dashrender said in There has to be a better way:

                @scottalanmiller said in There has to be a better way:

                @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

                Does the VM I want to work from need to be offline?

                When attaching the disk? yes.

                why? You can add new disks to VMWare while a VM is running without any issues. I'm pretty sure you can attach a pre-existing partition as well.

                You can do the same in XenServer. At least with Windows as the guest. I haven't tried it with Linux.

                You can't however do this if the source drive is running on a separate VM. (That VM must be powered off).

                Which is what I did in order to do this.

                Right, unless you unmount the source drive first. I don't even think VMWare can reliably do this.

                VMware can do it reliably on its side, but it would still hose the data inside the drive.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

                  @coliver said in There has to be a better way:

                  @Dashrender said in There has to be a better way:

                  @scottalanmiller said in There has to be a better way:

                  @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

                  Does the VM I want to work from need to be offline?

                  When attaching the disk? yes.

                  why? You can add new disks to VMWare while a VM is running without any issues. I'm pretty sure you can attach a pre-existing partition as well.

                  You can do the same in XenServer. At least with Windows as the guest. I haven't tried it with Linux.

                  You can't however do this if the source drive is running on a separate VM. (That VM must be powered off).

                  Which is what I did in order to do this.

                  Sure, as scott said before, I totally understand why you don't mount a VHD to two running VMs - boom!

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in There has to be a better way:

                    @coliver said in There has to be a better way:

                    @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

                    @coliver said in There has to be a better way:

                    @Dashrender said in There has to be a better way:

                    @scottalanmiller said in There has to be a better way:

                    @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

                    Does the VM I want to work from need to be offline?

                    When attaching the disk? yes.

                    why? You can add new disks to VMWare while a VM is running without any issues. I'm pretty sure you can attach a pre-existing partition as well.

                    You can do the same in XenServer. At least with Windows as the guest. I haven't tried it with Linux.

                    You can't however do this if the source drive is running on a separate VM. (That VM must be powered off).

                    Which is what I did in order to do this.

                    Right, unless you unmount the source drive first. I don't even think VMWare can reliably do this.

                    VMware can do it reliably on its side, but it would still hose the data inside the drive.

                    Right, unless it's a cluster aware OS and Filesystem.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in There has to be a better way:

                      @coliver said in There has to be a better way:

                      @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

                      @coliver said in There has to be a better way:

                      @Dashrender said in There has to be a better way:

                      @scottalanmiller said in There has to be a better way:

                      @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

                      Does the VM I want to work from need to be offline?

                      When attaching the disk? yes.

                      why? You can add new disks to VMWare while a VM is running without any issues. I'm pretty sure you can attach a pre-existing partition as well.

                      You can do the same in XenServer. At least with Windows as the guest. I haven't tried it with Linux.

                      You can't however do this if the source drive is running on a separate VM. (That VM must be powered off).

                      Which is what I did in order to do this.

                      Right, unless you unmount the source drive first. I don't even think VMWare can reliably do this.

                      VMware can do it reliably on its side, but it would still hose the data inside the drive.

                      If you unmounted it first? Or was this a system drive?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in There has to be a better way:

                        @scottalanmiller said in There has to be a better way:

                        @coliver said in There has to be a better way:

                        @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

                        @coliver said in There has to be a better way:

                        @Dashrender said in There has to be a better way:

                        @scottalanmiller said in There has to be a better way:

                        @DustinB3403 said in There has to be a better way:

                        Does the VM I want to work from need to be offline?

                        When attaching the disk? yes.

                        why? You can add new disks to VMWare while a VM is running without any issues. I'm pretty sure you can attach a pre-existing partition as well.

                        You can do the same in XenServer. At least with Windows as the guest. I haven't tried it with Linux.

                        You can't however do this if the source drive is running on a separate VM. (That VM must be powered off).

                        Which is what I did in order to do this.

                        Right, unless you unmount the source drive first. I don't even think VMWare can reliably do this.

                        VMware can do it reliably on its side, but it would still hose the data inside the drive.

                        Right, unless it's a cluster aware OS and Filesystem.

                        Just cluster aware filesystem. GFS2, OCFS, VxFS would all work fine.

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