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    Working out, no diet.

    Water Closet
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      rich9403 @Minion Queen
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      @Minion-Queen also awesome for you that you are making the changes. ๐Ÿ™‚ it isn't easy but it's sooooooo worth it

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      • Minion QueenM
        Minion Queen Banned
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        @rich9403 I might need to call on your expertise!

        We should do a MangoLassi Community weight loss challenge!!

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        • Minion QueenM
          Minion Queen Banned
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          I have been very sick most of my adult life. Between thyroid issues (that took them years to find) and food allergies (that again took them forever to find). For the first time I actually feel healthy and want to stay that way!

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            It seems that food allergies are one of the hardest things for doctors to troubleshoot. My sister in law finally found that she has a wheat allergy - now that she avoids it, she's feeling much better!

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              Minion Queen Banned
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              The fact that they are hard to find and most Dr's don't want to believe that an allergy really could be causing most of your health issues made life difficult for many years for me.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                I have very little personal faith in physicians to heal us as it is. Frankly I'm wondering if something like Watson will do a much better job. No egos to get in the way.

                I say egos, because I know that medical doctors often dismiss chiropractic care as worthwhile. Instead they want you to go to physical therapy or traction, etc. Homeopathic medicine seems to be sacrosanct, which probably is due to their training... It's no different than companies HR departments still requiring IT professionals to have a 4 year degree before they will even let them in the door, it's the old way of thinking holding us back.

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                • Minion QueenM
                  Minion Queen Banned
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                  I completely agree @Dashrender I lost my confidence in the medical community a long time ago and have explored and treated most things myself (or at least knew what to ask for when I was at the Dr's).

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                  • NetworkNerdN
                    NetworkNerd
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                    I have seen references to The Bulletproof Executive in Spiceworks (Duffney, I think). Supposedly you can eat the right things to fight fat and not exercise (and not sleep much), I'm not sure I buy into it: http://www.bulletproofexec.com/.

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                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      I have very little personal faith in physicians to heal us as it is. Frankly I'm wondering if something like Watson will do a much better job. No egos to get in the way.

                      I say egos, because I know that medical doctors often dismiss chiropractic care as worthwhile. Instead they want you to go to physical therapy or traction, etc. Homeopathic medicine seems to be sacrosanct, which probably is due to their training... It's no different than companies HR departments still requiring IT professionals to have a 4 year degree before they will even let them in the door, it's the old way of thinking holding us back.

                      Same here. I don't have faith in American doctors, at least. The "profession" here is not like it is in other countries. I've had nothing but am amazing experience with a doctor in France. But rarely have I had even an acceptable one in the US.

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                        Gabi
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                        Wow is all I can say.

                        Some great transformations.

                        Diet as well as "working out" is what will make changes to your body.

                        You do not need to be a nutter and cut everything out, but do eat things in moderation.

                        Look at the mediterraneans, have olive oil in everything, have carbs in a lot of meals, wine/beer and some are still in great shapes.

                        It's eating fresh/none crap food, if possible make your own bread/your own pizza/pasta if you like that kind of thing.

                        Avoid if possible pre-made foods on a daily basis.

                        Nice steady paced walks, take up an activity such as swimming and things like that will help.

                        Being at the gym 2 hours a day, every day like a crazy person is neither good for most of us and or normal + boring.

                        Good luck ๐Ÿ™‚

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                          jasonh
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                          While you can probably lose weight by eating carbs and doing tons of exercise, it's (a) probably inefficient (the more carbs you take in the more exercise you need to do to burn them off) and (b) it's not exactly a healthy approach (where do you get your vitamins?)

                          I've heard that fatty foods and sugar (including carbs) are addictive; the more you eat them, the more you crave them. In my experience this is very true. Once I managed to consistently reduce my sugar (I haven't drank soda/pop in almost 10 years) and carb intake for a long period of time, the less I craved them. I also found that the more I ate vegetables, the more I craved them. After a while, I could barely stomach any fast food; it just didn't taste good any more (it probably never tasted good, but I didn't realize it.) This took quite a few months of real healthy eating. It was very difficult but I guess I just had the willpower to do it (my motivation was wanting to reduce my risks for long-term future problems that run my family like like heart disease, high blood pressure, cancer.) Today I still eat out quite a bit, but I'm a lot more selective about where I eat (less fast food chains, more small diners and delis and whatnot.)

                          I lost a bit of weight due to improved eating habits, but I don't think it was all that much. Where I really lost weight was from daily exercise. I spent an entire summer biking anywhere from 5 to 10km (3-6 miles) almost every day (maybe 6 out of 7 days on average.) While not an extraordinary feat, it was convenient enough and didn't tie up a ton of time so I managed to do consistently for a long period of time. I probably lost 15-20lbs over that summer with no other exercise, although I'm sure the improved eating around the same time also helped.

                          Within the last year I lost about 25lbs due to a "mostly" gluten free diet. It's "mostly" gluten free because my fiancรฉe has Celiac Disease so we don't eat any gluten at home nor even keep it in the house for fear of cross contamination; she's that sensitive to it. But when I'm outside of the house I will still eat a sandwich or breaded food, but very little. I wasn't overweight before, but I was at the top end of "normal" weight range for my height. Now I'm in the middle/low side of the normal range. This was with no other changes in my eating or activity levels (which have not been that great over the last year or two; slowly working on getting back into the habit of exercising and hoping that warmer weather will help.)

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                            jasonh
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                            Another point I just thought about with vegetables; I started to enjoy them more once I started eating good ones. Vegetables from the grocery store, including the organic ones, are usually crap compared to real good home-grown or farm-fresh vegetables; they have more flavour, brighter/deeper colours, and apparently more nutrients. I grow some of my own, my parents grow quite a few, and I buy from the Mennonites, road-side farm stands, and the farmers market as often as I can.

                            My pet peeve is seeing slices of pale pink/red-ish tomatoes in places like Subway.

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                              RAM.
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                              @Minion-Queen I've done 2 red apples, 1 green (granny smith), and 2 carrots thus far. Its fine no problem. I tried throwing spinach in by itself and it failed.... didn't realize I had to throw it in with other stuff lol.

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                                scottalanmiller @RAM.
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                                @RAM. You know its weird. I never liked vegetables much. Not that I wouldn't eat them but it was hard to get excited about a salad.

                                Went vegetarian about thirteen years ago and now meat seems gross and veggies are delicious. The change in diet changed what I desired to eat over time.

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                                  RAM.
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                                  I have to try eating vegetables ๐Ÿ˜ฆ they just make me gag like I'm a child

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                                  • Minion QueenM
                                    Minion Queen Banned
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                                    @RAM. if you are drinking them have you tried adding them in with fruit. One of my favorite juices (I love veggies though) is
                                    1 Green apple (granny smith is awesome)
                                    2 Carrots
                                    bunch of Kale
                                    1/2 cucumber
                                    bunch of spinach
                                    half a lemon

                                    Throw it all in the juicer and drink up!

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                                      RAM.
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                                      @Minion-Queen I've done 2 red apples, 1 green, and 2 carrots thus far. I tried throwing in spinich but it failed because I didn't throw it in with other stuff

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                                        JaredBusch @jasonh
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                                        @jasonh said:

                                        While you can probably lose weight by eating carbs and doing tons of exercise, it's (a) probably inefficient (the more carbs you take in the more exercise you need to do to burn them off) and (b) it's not exactly a healthy approach (where do you get your vitamins?)

                                        I never claimed what I did was efficient or long term healthy. I ate as I did because I ate things that were (a) pre-portioned (cup noodles) or (b) very simple to cook (instant oatmeal and basic pasta, just add jot water).

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