HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers
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I think that the price savings are very hard to figure out. As a PC gamer, I buy one nice laptop and we will see how long it lasts for me. But it is a cost that I have to spend anyway, so hard to figure out the gaming portion of that. But it is definitely not 100%. It's like 20%. So $150 - $300 investment, let's say.
Now what is a new consoler? $400? That's a little more, but comparable. But if you are tempted to buy new PCs over and over again, you are also the person who likely buys lots of consoles. So that is actually $400 for the One and $400 for the PS4 and $200 for the WiiU. These come out often enough that at best you are buying one every other year and at worst every year! And one of these consoles just did a small update... that's like a PC upgrade. So there is that to worry about, too.
Console gamers that I know often spend quite a bit more on their consoles for lots of "different" gear that is all about the same instead of one machine that kicks the crap out of all of them.
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@Kelly said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I warned my wife that as soon as FFIX goes on sale I'm spending money, no questions asked.
My wife loves that I scour the sales daily (literally.) I know exactly at what time each service does their sales of the day. It takes effort to know that you are always getting a great price, but we have an amazing library for very little money because of it.
FF9 is the only one out that I don't have on the PC yet. It's on my watch list. I assume that we will get a good deal on it at the end of the month. I'm ready. I've got nearly 300 items on the wish list!!
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I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
I think it really depends on your expectation. If you want to only play AAA games on release then a console is probably overall cheaper. As the consoles age the developers artificially impair the performance of their new games to not stress the current console, whereas PC games are constantly pushing the edge of the available hardware.
I'm in a similar camp as @scottalanmiller. I play a lot of old games, and the newer ones I play I get some time after they release (CivVI being the notable exception).
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@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Kelly said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I warned my wife that as soon as FFIX goes on sale I'm spending money, no questions asked.
My wife loves that I scour the sales daily (literally.) I know exactly at what time each service does their sales of the day. It takes effort to know that you are always getting a great price, but we have an amazing library for very little money because of it.
FF9 is the only one out that I don't have on the PC yet. It's on my watch list. I assume that we will get a good deal on it at the end of the month. I'm ready. I've got nearly 300 items on the wish list!!
I'm eyeballing that one too... I'm playing through it on my laptop using ePSXE at the moment.
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
I don't know any console people who don't have most of them. Only ones that I know that don't have all aren't gamers AND don't have computers at home.
But the SAME logic that says you need to constantly update your PC even though it still works fine... says that you need all of the consoles and all of the latest ones. Either the PC is cheaper because you don't actually have to keep upgrading. Or it is cheaper because you only need one. Any apples to apples, it wins outside of casual gamers who don't use computers.
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
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@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've seen for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
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@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
On this note I have an xBox for sale if anyone wants one... Used twice.
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@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
Dongle? So there's a a Steam PC now? what's the dongle for?
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
Dongle? So there's a a Steam PC now? what's the dongle for?
For playing on a regular PC. If you get a Steam Machine or the Steam Link you don't need a dongle. But for *nix or Windows PCs you will need it.
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@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
Dongle? So there's a a Steam PC now? what's the dongle for?
Been Steam Machines (Steam consoles) for over seven months now. And they've had dongles for their controllers since they released almost a year ago. And they have the Steam Link for remote gaming with their controllers, too.
One dongle allows four Steam Controllers to one machine.
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@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
Dongle? So there's a a Steam PC now? what's the dongle for?
For playing on a regular PC. If you get a Steam Machine or the Steam Link you don't need a dongle. But for *nix or Windows PCs you will need it.
Only because the dongle is pre-installed on the inside of the chassis. It still uses the dongle on the Steam Machines.
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Steam merged the PC and the console a year ago. Once Big Picture released, the PC really offers everything that the console does and way more. From the game pad only experience to the online social stuff. It's all there.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
Dongle? So there's a a Steam PC now? what's the dongle for?
For playing on a regular PC. If you get a Steam Machine or the Steam Link you don't need a dongle. But for *nix or Windows PCs you will need it.
Only because the dongle is pre-installed on the inside of the chassis. It still uses the dongle on the Steam Machines.
True. Is it accessible without opening the chassis?
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@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@coliver said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@scottalanmiller said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
@Dashrender said in HP unveils versatile gaming line for adult gamers:
I don't agree with the buy every other year. But I suppose it could be close - and well the console makers are now playing catch up again to get 4K out there, so with the Xbox 1 and PS4, even if you bought a year ago.. you're going to be buying again soon probably.
Right, and with three different makers, if each releases every six years that's one every other year if you are the kind to be addicted to always having the latest.
Most people I know have only one, a rare few have two, and I know no one personally who has all three (or four if you count the original Wii)
Really? Most gamers I know have two. Several have three. Three and Four if you include a gaming PC. Even some non-gamers I know have an Xbox and Wii.
We are very casual and had everything... PC, PS, XBOX and Wii. I finally put my foot down about the consoles and we phased them out. The WiiU was such garbage it pushed us over the brink. Steam made the consoles just seem like such a bad idea. Steam put the stake in them for sure. PC used to have negatives, now, it really doesn't.
Even so, though, going to have the gaming PC plus the Shield with is yet another console, actually. It's just more like a PC than a normal console.
I phased out consoles with the latest generation. A lot of gamers I know are doing the same. They don't see the value in having a PC, that they spent a few thousand dollars on, and an Xbox/PS/Wii that will collect dust. The only argument I've see for consoles are party games that can't effectively be played on a computer. Although with the Steam Controllers and the new Xbox (For PC) Controllers that is going to be less of an issue I think.
Yeah, Steam has totally taken away the console values. All of the social stuff, the four controllers with one dongle and all that kind of stuff has been addressed. I don't see any value in consoles outside of marketing.
Dongle? So there's a a Steam PC now? what's the dongle for?
For playing on a regular PC. If you get a Steam Machine or the Steam Link you don't need a dongle. But for *nix or Windows PCs you will need it.
Only because the dongle is pre-installed on the inside of the chassis. It still uses the dongle on the Steam Machines.
True. Is it accessible without opening the chassis?
Would be hard to get to something inside the chassis without opening it
Same as any standard internal USB slot.
