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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      Hopefully any business that is looking at the two will find that they are completely functional and without limitation. Obviously anyone currently using XenServer would know this.

      But who knows with the FUD factor.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

        Hopefully any business that is looking at the two will find that they are completely functional and without limitation. Obviously anyone currently using XenServer would know this.

        But who knows with the FUD factor.

        I'm not so sure it's that obvious.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender Where do you think the line is blurred? XS and everything that is XS is open source. Free to use.

          XenApp / XenDesktop and the other tools that Citrix is developing from scratch, that is all closed source. The monitor Xen has nothing at all to do with XenServer.

          A lot of the new functionality built into XS greatly improves XenApp/XenDesktop functionality and performance. But that is all XS.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Monitor?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

              @Dashrender Where do you think the line is blurred? XS and everything that is XS is open source. Free to use.

              XenApp / XenDesktop and the other tools that Citrix is developing from scratch, that is all closed source. The monitor Xen has nothing at all to do with XenServer.

              A lot of the new functionality built into XS greatly improves XenApp/XenDesktop functionality and performance. But that is all XS.

              The lines are blurred like they were for me with RHE Linux. I didn't know that it was 100% free - the FUD around it made me think/assume you HAD to buy it, or at least HAD to buy support.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                Monitor?

                Yeah I have no idea what I was typing there.

                I think what I meant was XenApp / XenDesktop has nothing to do with XenServer.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                  The lines are blurred like they were for me with RHE Linux. I didn't know that it was 100% free - the FUD around it made me think/assume you HAD to buy it, or at least HAD to buy support.

                  That is understandable. If you want "XenServer" (and @scottalanmiller correct me if I'm wrong) you go through Citrix. If you want "Xen Server" you go to the Linux Foundation.

                  They are the same product, just released from two sources.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    This monitor seems to be pretty chill. Maybe it is a zen monitor:

                    monitor

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                      That is understandable. If you want "XenServer" (and @scottalanmiller correct me if I'm wrong) you go through Citrix. If you want "Xen Server" you go to the Linux Foundation.

                      They are the same product, just released from two sources.

                      There is no and never has been a "Xen Server".

                      Xen and XenServer are Linux Foundation.

                      XenApp and XenDesktop are Citrix.

                      Citrix offers XenServer Enterprise with additional add ons that are not directly part of the Xen or XenServer codebases.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by DustinB3403

                        So the question that I have is. What is in the "Enterprise" edition that isn't in the community edition?

                        Also did Citrix write code on their own for applications that run on the Hypervisor?

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                          @Dashrender Where do you think the line is blurred? XS and everything that is XS is open source. Free to use.

                          XenApp / XenDesktop and the other tools that Citrix is developing from scratch, that is all closed source. The monitor Xen has nothing at all to do with XenServer.

                          A lot of the new functionality built into XS greatly improves XenApp/XenDesktop functionality and performance. But that is all XS.

                          Moniker?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                            @DustinB3403 said in XenServer 7 has launched!:

                            FYI I hate now that this XS7 release has dropped that everyone is saying "Enterprise and Community Editions". Who honestly isn't going to be using the "community edition"?

                            This to me seems like the Red Hat Enterprise Edition thing all over again. According to Scott, RHE is 100% free - though they don't make links directly available on their website to download it (though I could be wrong on that now).
                            So this means, IF you can get your hands on the bits, you can use it to your hearts content, you just don't get support.

                            I don't know if this is true. If in fact Citrix has some closed source code in their installation media, you having it without having paid for it is theft.

                            Without having access to the XS7 release from Citrix I have no way to compare the MD5's. Does anyone here pay for XenServer from Citrix?

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee
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                              Men you FOSS folks, y'all make things as clear as mud!

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                FYI I hate now that this XS7 release has dropped that everyone is saying "Enterprise and Community Editions". Who honestly isn't going to be using the "community edition"?

                                Where do you download the XS "Community" ISO from or are they all the same?

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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                                  @FATeknollogee said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                  FYI I hate now that this XS7 release has dropped that everyone is saying "Enterprise and Community Editions". Who honestly isn't going to be using the "community edition"?

                                  Where do you download the XS "Community" ISO from or are they all the same?

                                  http://xenserver.org/overview-xenserver-open-source-virtualization/download.html

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @FATeknollogee
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                                    @FATeknollogee said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                    FYI I hate now that this XS7 release has dropped that everyone is saying "Enterprise and Community Editions". Who honestly isn't going to be using the "community edition"?

                                    Where do you download the XS "Community" ISO from or are they all the same?

                                    http://xenserver.org/overview-xenserver-open-source-virtualization/download.html

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @coliver
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                                      @coliver said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                      @FATeknollogee said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                      FYI I hate now that this XS7 release has dropped that everyone is saying "Enterprise and Community Editions". Who honestly isn't going to be using the "community edition"?

                                      Where do you download the XS "Community" ISO from or are they all the same?

                                      http://xenserver.org/overview-xenserver-open-source-virtualization/download.html

                                      I beat you to it 😛

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                        @coliver said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                        @FATeknollogee said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                        FYI I hate now that this XS7 release has dropped that everyone is saying "Enterprise and Community Editions". Who honestly isn't going to be using the "community edition"?

                                        Where do you download the XS "Community" ISO from or are they all the same?

                                        http://xenserver.org/overview-xenserver-open-source-virtualization/download.html

                                        I beat you to it 😛

                                        Just goes to show how easy it is to find.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                          Also did Citrix write code on their own for applications that run on the Hypervisor?

                                          That's the understanding.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in XenServer Community Edition versus Enterprise:

                                            Also did Citrix write code on their own for applications that run on the Hypervisor?

                                            That's the understanding.

                                            That is all the RedHat did too. They added their own scripts for various tasks that ran on top of RHEL to go along with the support.

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