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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

      @BRRABill so there is a misunderstanding here.

      Police don't enforce the law, they simply bring people in for the judiciary system to enforce the law on those people.

      The cops in that video, the individuals broke the law, by unlawfully restraining that women. Even if they had the job to pull her over for speeding. The only thing they should've done was write the ticket and say good night.

      Forcing or even attempting to force an admission on the curb side is not within the law. They took that on themselves, many officers do.

      My point being in the absence of video/audio proof, it's the Wild Wild West out there.

      Unless the video was going to incriminate you, you'd want to it running and in your possession.

      If you decide to roll your windows down a few inches and not talk to anyone, it would be best to have some video of what potentially happen next. AKA you getting dragged out of a car.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said

        Which suggests that they aren't really rights.

        Well, they are. But you have a long hill to climb to prove so, in general.

        And the police certainly don't make it easy for you, either.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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          @BRRABill Really the police just need reminders.

          If the women simply said "I'm reserving my right to not speak with you" the cop would've been pissed, wrote the ticket and left.

          Many people forget that. Just provide a reminder. Being stubborn, and not explaining why is what got her arrested for "obstructing justice".

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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            @BRRABill said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

            @scottalanmiller said

            Which suggests that they aren't really rights.

            Well, they are. But you have a long hill to climb to prove so, in general.

            And the police certainly don't make it easy for you, either.

            Yeah, that makes the term "right" more of a misnomer. We call them rights, but if they aren't assured, they are just "hopefuls."

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

              @BRRABill Really the police just need reminders.

              If the women simply said "I'm reserving my right to not speak with you" the cop would've been pissed, wrote the ticket and left.

              Many people forget that. Just provide a reminder. Being stubborn, and not explaining why is what got her arrested for "obstructing justice".

              Which, is again on the police for not knowing the law. As they should.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                Many people forget that. Just provide a reminder. Being stubborn, and not explaining why is what got her arrested for "obstructing justice".

                It's not your responsibility to do the cops' jobs for them. They are trained on the law. You have no responsibility to explain their limits to them. If a cop is breaking the law, reminding him that he is the criminal and not you, is not going to help in nearly all cases.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Then again, I did once get pulled over for drunk driving and reminding the cop that it was him, not me, that had been drinking. That time it worked and he ran away.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller Of course, but which would you prefer, to provide a reminder, or be arrested for several hours while the police try to find anything on you to make the arrest stick?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                      @scottalanmiller Of course, but which would you prefer, to provide a reminder, or be arrested for several hours while the police try to find anything on you to make the arrest stick?

                      Providing a reminder is what gets you beaten or shot, potentially.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Reminding a cop who is breaking the law, of the law, is no different than reminding a bank robber that it isn't their money.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller True.....

                          You might get beaten or shot for reminding the police of the law. Most people don't like to look like a fool.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                            @scottalanmiller True.....

                            You might get beaten or shot for reminding the police of the law. Most people don't like to look like a fool.

                            Yeah, it's a very dangerous thing to do. Even if it works great "most" of the time, even if it fails 5% that's a pretty big risk.

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ
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                              There are so many depressing stories when it involves law enforcement. A few years ago, a man was fishing near a bridge. A car veered off the bridge into the water. The fisherman dove off his boat and saved the guy's life. After calling officials the fisherman was later ticketed for not having any life jackets aboard his boat. Of course the man he saved offered to pay the fine, but that is just ridiculous.

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @KOOLER
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                                @KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                @MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.

                                I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).

                                TL;DR epic little widget.

                                Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.

                                Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ @MattSpeller
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                                  @MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                  @KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                  Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.

                                  I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).

                                  TL;DR epic little widget.

                                  Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.

                                  Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.

                                  WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?

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                                  • IRJI
                                    IRJ
                                    last edited by IRJ

                                    That is more than it would cost to replace the entire motor or transmission in my Jeep lol.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      @IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                      @MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                      @KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                      @MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                      Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.

                                      I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).

                                      TL;DR epic little widget.

                                      Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.

                                      Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.

                                      WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?

                                      Maybe it's a scramjet.

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by IRJ

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                        @IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                        @MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                        @KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                        @MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                        Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.

                                        I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).

                                        TL;DR epic little widget.

                                        Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.

                                        Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.

                                        WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?

                                        Maybe it's a scramjet.

                                        Yeah it just sounds outrageous to me. Worst case scenario on a fuel pump, you are dropping the fuel tank. At a well equipped mechanic shop I could maybe see them squeezing 3 hours labor out of a worse case scenario fuel pump install.

                                        8/10 times you dont have to drop the tank.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @IRJ
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                                          @IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                          @IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                          @MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                          @KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                          @MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                          Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.

                                          I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).

                                          TL;DR epic little widget.

                                          Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.

                                          Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.

                                          WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?

                                          Maybe it's a scramjet.

                                          Yeah it just sounds outrageous to me. Worst case scenario on a fuel pump, you are dropping the fuel tank. At a well equipped mechanic shop I could maybe see them squeezing 3 hours labor out of a worse case scenario fuel pump install.

                                          If it's like my wife's jeep, it could be because of the module. The pump replacement was like $400 including labor, but if the module needed replaced it was like $800-900 (not including the pump). And they couldn't tell you which one it was until they replaced one and it didn't fix it. The codes they get are too generic. So you could luck out and they could replace the correct one, or you could be in the hole for a ton of money.

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                                          • IRJI
                                            IRJ @stacksofplates
                                            last edited by

                                            @johnhooks said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                            @IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                            @IRJ said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                            @MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                            @KOOLER said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                            @MattSpeller said in Looking for a Dashcam with ODB II:

                                            Can't say enough positive stuff about getting an OBD2 reader, they're freaking fantastic.

                                            I drive my poor car so freaking hard and I've had a bad misfire when it gets up to temp that no one has been able to diagnose. In less than 24h owning this widget I discovered it was misfiring on all 4 cylinders when it got hot on a low tank of gas. My theory is that the turbo is boiling the gas return line and it's heating up the tank. When the fuel pump goes to work it's not sending enough pressure (because hot gas / insufficient lube in the pump (gas lubes the pump)).

                                            TL;DR epic little widget.

                                            Throw in some wideband O2 sensor and gas pressure gauge and you'll know for sure. For me what you say sound like fuel pump issues.

                                            Indeed it is the fuel pump. Glorious $1250 inc labor fuel pump.

                                            WTF!? $1250 for a fuel pump? Do you have a rocket?

                                            Maybe it's a scramjet.

                                            Yeah it just sounds outrageous to me. Worst case scenario on a fuel pump, you are dropping the fuel tank. At a well equipped mechanic shop I could maybe see them squeezing 3 hours labor out of a worse case scenario fuel pump install.

                                            If it's like my wife's jeep, it could be because of the module. The pump replacement was like $400 including labor, but if the module needed replaced it was like $800-900 (not including the pump). And they couldn't tell you which one it was until they replaced one and it didn't fix it. The codes they get are too generic. So you could luck out and they could replace the correct one, or you could be in the hole for a ton of money.

                                            If the module was bad, then the pump wasn't really bad so they misdiagnosed it and made you pay for it. Also modules just like any part are marked up 2 to 3 times the price the shop pays for them. I've worked in the automotive industry and it's pretty sickening. I used to see this all the time.

                                            An example would be like this

                                            Fuel Module

                                            Mechanic - $800
                                            Advance Autoparts - $350
                                            Amazon or wholesale - $200-250

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