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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

      @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

      @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

      I've seen similar on clean installs. Mount them to a linux system and format the drives. I just had to do this for my mother this past weekend in fact.

      She has stuff on this she wants to keep. I don't see how it's going to be possible to retrieve all of it. (lack of knowledge here)

      Linux LiveCD can often see them.

      Yeah I made one and can boot from other PC's but this one laptop will not boot. From the information given right before the windows 10 installation they were watching DVD's. Now it isnt recognizing it as bootable media for some reason.

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

        @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

        @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

        I've seen similar on clean installs. Mount them to a linux system and format the drives. I just had to do this for my mother this past weekend in fact.

        She has stuff on this she wants to keep. I don't see how it's going to be possible to retrieve all of it. (lack of knowledge here)

        Linux LiveCD can often see them.

        2nd this, fire up your fave distro and run GParted

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

          @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

          @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

          @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

          I've seen similar on clean installs. Mount them to a linux system and format the drives. I just had to do this for my mother this past weekend in fact.

          She has stuff on this she wants to keep. I don't see how it's going to be possible to retrieve all of it. (lack of knowledge here)

          Linux LiveCD can often see them.

          Yeah I made one and can boot from other PC's but this one laptop will not boot. From the information given right before the windows 10 installation they were watching DVD's. Now it isnt recognizing it as bootable media for some reason.

          Sounds like UEFI garbage in BIOS (if laptops are reasonably new)

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
            last edited by

            @MattSpeller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

            @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

            @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

            @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

            @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

            I've seen similar on clean installs. Mount them to a linux system and format the drives. I just had to do this for my mother this past weekend in fact.

            She has stuff on this she wants to keep. I don't see how it's going to be possible to retrieve all of it. (lack of knowledge here)

            Linux LiveCD can often see them.

            Yeah I made one and can boot from other PC's but this one laptop will not boot. From the information given right before the windows 10 installation they were watching DVD's. Now it isnt recognizing it as bootable media for some reason.

            Sounds like UEFI garbage in BIOS (if laptops are reasonably new)

            I changed to legacy, UEFI, defaulted, disabled safeboot, etc. Nothing has worked. It's really weird.

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @wirestyle22
              last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

              @MattSpeller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

              @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

              @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

              @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

              @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

              I've seen similar on clean installs. Mount them to a linux system and format the drives. I just had to do this for my mother this past weekend in fact.

              She has stuff on this she wants to keep. I don't see how it's going to be possible to retrieve all of it. (lack of knowledge here)

              Linux LiveCD can often see them.

              Yeah I made one and can boot from other PC's but this one laptop will not boot. From the information given right before the windows 10 installation they were watching DVD's. Now it isnt recognizing it as bootable media for some reason.

              Sounds like UEFI garbage in BIOS (if laptops are reasonably new)

              I changed to legacy, UEFI, defaulted, disabled safeboot, etc. Nothing has worked. It's really weird.

              That's f'd up man, I dunno what to tell you

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                last edited by wirestyle22

                @MattSpeller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                @MattSpeller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                I've seen similar on clean installs. Mount them to a linux system and format the drives. I just had to do this for my mother this past weekend in fact.

                She has stuff on this she wants to keep. I don't see how it's going to be possible to retrieve all of it. (lack of knowledge here)

                Linux LiveCD can often see them.

                Yeah I made one and can boot from other PC's but this one laptop will not boot. From the information given right before the windows 10 installation they were watching DVD's. Now it isnt recognizing it as bootable media for some reason.

                Sounds like UEFI garbage in BIOS (if laptops are reasonably new)

                I changed to legacy, UEFI, defaulted, disabled safeboot, etc. Nothing has worked. It's really weird.

                That's f'd up man, I dunno what to tell you

                I don't even know what to tell myself. I'm like, oh I'll just format no big deal. Nope.

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @wirestyle22
                  last edited by

                  @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                  @MattSpeller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                  @MattSpeller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                  I've seen similar on clean installs. Mount them to a linux system and format the drives. I just had to do this for my mother this past weekend in fact.

                  She has stuff on this she wants to keep. I don't see how it's going to be possible to retrieve all of it. (lack of knowledge here)

                  Linux LiveCD can often see them.

                  Yeah I made one and can boot from other PC's but this one laptop will not boot. From the information given right before the windows 10 installation they were watching DVD's. Now it isnt recognizing it as bootable media for some reason.

                  Sounds like UEFI garbage in BIOS (if laptops are reasonably new)

                  I changed to legacy, UEFI, defaulted, disabled safeboot, etc. Nothing has worked. It's really weird.

                  That's f'd up man, I dunno what to tell you

                  I don't even know what to tell myself. I'm like, oh I'll just format no big deal. Nope.

                  maybe try a complete bios reset?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    This definitely sounds like a BIOS issue. Sounds like the Windows update messed with the BIOS.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                      This definitely sounds like a BIOS issue. Sounds like the Windows update messed with the BIOS.

                      When have you actually seen a windows update break BIOS?

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                        This definitely sounds like a BIOS issue. Sounds like the Windows update messed with the BIOS.

                        When have you actually seen a windows update break BIOS?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                          This definitely sounds like a BIOS issue. Sounds like the Windows update messed with the BIOS.

                          When have you actually seen a windows update break BIOS?

                          I know, it's weird, but for this to happen on two machines... something funky is going on.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
                            last edited by

                            @MattSpeller those are BIOS updates, not Windows updates.

                            There is a difference.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                              This definitely sounds like a BIOS issue. Sounds like the Windows update messed with the BIOS.

                              When have you actually seen a windows update break BIOS?

                              I know, it's weird, but for this to happen on two machines... something funky is going on.

                              I'll try to flash the bios to verify.

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                                @MattSpeller those are BIOS updates, not Windows updates.

                                There is a difference.

                                Semantically, maybe, but if they both change settings in the same hardware (bios)....

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                                  last edited by

                                  @MattSpeller said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                                  @MattSpeller those are BIOS updates, not Windows updates.

                                  There is a difference.

                                  Semantically, maybe, but if they both change settings in the same hardware (bios)....

                                  The hardware isn't the same actually. One is a Sony Vaio and the other is a Dell Inspiron

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
                                    last edited by

                                    @MattSpeller It's not really semantics.

                                    One is a BIOS update delivered by Windows Update, the others are Windows Updates..

                                    lol sorry I'm just calling BS on that.

                                    Even if MS is making the BIOS patch, it's still not a Windows Update. That's confusing the provider of the update, and the target of the update.

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                                    • MattSpellerM
                                      MattSpeller @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                                      @MattSpeller It's not really semantics.

                                      One is a BIOS update delivered by Windows Update, the others are Windows Updates..

                                      lol sorry I'm just calling BS on that.

                                      Even if MS is making the BIOS patch, it's still not a Windows Update. That's confusing the provider of the update, and the target of the update.

                                      lol I'll stand my ground but this is definitely a bit silly

                                      If it comes from windows update and it alters the bios, I would blame MS if it failed. It's a windows update. MS does not separate out any type of update and I won't either. (ex: .net updates are windows updates, office updates are windows updates)

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        I have to agree with @MattSpeller on this one, Windows Update's products are windows updates and all fault with them lies with Microsoft. We don't know that that is what happened here yet, but it sounds like it.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @MattSpeller
                                          last edited by

                                          Microsoft often gets system patches from hardware manufacturers that they push out through Windows Updates.

                                          So how is MS at fault?

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                                          • MattSpellerM
                                            MattSpeller @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Windows 10 Update -- Hard Drive No Longer Recognized:

                                            Microsoft often gets system patches from hardware manufacturers that they push out through Windows Updates.

                                            So how is MS at fault?

                                            Dammit Dustin, hop on board the MS hate train! It's easy and we have cookies 🙂

                                            Honestly though lol if it comes from windows update there's no one to blame but MS. Either they didn't test it well enough or .... some other cluster F that escapes me. But the TL;DR here is there is no one else to stick it to if MS rubber stamped it and put it on WU.

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