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    Rocket Chat vs. Jabber

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    • coliverC
      coliver
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      There are tons of Jabber/XMPP servers out there. I think OpenFire is the best known.

      http://xmpp.org/software/servers.html

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      • coliverC
        coliver
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        I haven't used either rocket.chat or OpenFire in production. So I can't really comment on those. I will say that rocket.chat seems to more akin to a chatroom style system then OpenFire which is pretty much direct IM.

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre @coliver
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          @coliver said:

          I haven't used either rocket.chat or OpenFire in production. So I can't really comment on those. I will say that rocket.chat seems to more akin to a chatroom style system then OpenFire which is pretty much direct IM.

          That is a good analysis.

          If you want IM stuff, use openFire or another XMPP server.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @dafyre
            last edited by

            @dafyre said:

            @coliver said:

            I haven't used either rocket.chat or OpenFire in production. So I can't really comment on those. I will say that rocket.chat seems to more akin to a chatroom style system then OpenFire which is pretty much direct IM.

            That is a good analysis.

            If you want IM stuff, use openFire or another XMPP server.

            Although it looks like rocket.chat does allow for direct messages it just doesn't seem like that is the intended function of it.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @bbigford
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              @BBigford said:

              I've read that Jabber is free

              Jabber is the old name of the XMPP protocol. It's an open protocol.

              There are tons of Jabber servers. Google Talk and OpenFire are the main players.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said:

                Jabber, the application, is not.

                Real Jabber is free. We ran the Jabber Daemon for years before OpenFire was around. Cisco Jabber always has to be Cisco Jabber and isn't Jabber, ever.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said:

                  Although it looks like rocket.chat does allow for direct messages it just doesn't seem like that is the intended function of it.

                  Rocket.chat is a clone of Slack. Slack is built to be a direct replacement for Jabber/XMPP as well as IRC, all in one. It goes after the Skype, Lync / Skype for Business and similar space. It tries to do a lot. Rocket.chat goes after the IM market just as much as OpenFire does, but it goes after the group chat functionality as well in a way that the rest never really do.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @coliver said:

                    Although it looks like rocket.chat does allow for direct messages it just doesn't seem like that is the intended function of it.

                    Rocket.chat is a clone of Slack. Slack is built to be a direct replacement for Jabber/XMPP as well as IRC, all in one. It goes after the Skype, Lync / Skype for Business and similar space. It tries to do a lot. Rocket.chat goes after the IM market just as much as OpenFire does, but it goes after the group chat functionality as well in a way that the rest never really do.

                    That's good to know.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ
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                      We use Cisco Jabber since we have the licensing, but it really isn't that great. It's pretty basic but gets the job done. It reminds me of messengers from 10 years ago. Not alot of features, you have to add users to your friend list one at a time. It does work well, but the features are dated and limited.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @IRJ
                        last edited by

                        @IRJ said:

                        We use Cisco Jabber since we have the licensing, but it really isn't that great.

                        That was redundant 😉

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @IRJ
                          last edited by

                          @IRJ said:

                          We use Cisco Jabber since we have the licensing, but it really isn't that great. It's pretty basic but gets the job done. It reminds me of messengers from 10 years ago. Not alot of features, you have to add users to your friend list one at a time. It does work well, but the features are dated and limited.

                          We use AIM still here... we have licenses for Cisco Jabber but it is not in production.

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ
                            last edited by

                            Oh and Cisco Jabber is quite complicated like all Cisco stuff

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22
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                              Why isn't my network entirely Linux based? Can anyone tell me?

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @wirestyle22
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                                @wirestyle22 said:

                                Why isn't my network entirely Linux based? Can anyone tell me?

                                Politics?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                  @wirestyle22 said:

                                  Why isn't my network entirely Linux based? Can anyone tell me?

                                  Smokey the Bear has the answer... Only you can prevent Windows deployments.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @wirestyle22 said:

                                    Why isn't my network entirely Linux based? Can anyone tell me?

                                    Smokey the Bear has the answer... Only you can prevent Windows deployments.

                                    This is why everyone tells me I have dead eyes.

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                                    • bbigfordB
                                      bbigford @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @wirestyle22 said:

                                      Why isn't my network entirely Linux based? Can anyone tell me?

                                      Smokey the Bear has the answer... Only you can prevent Windows deployments.

                                      Haha classic!

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                                      • bbigfordB
                                        bbigford
                                        last edited by

                                        So what does everyone else use? I know SAM has a Rocket setup mixed with SfB that is not being used, instead just using Skype... coliver is using AIM still. Anyone else using an on-premise solution? Preferably free & open source.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @bbigford
                                          last edited by

                                          @BBigford said:

                                          So what does everyone else use? I know SAM has a Rocket setup mixed with SfB that is not being used, instead just using Skype... coliver is using AIM still. Anyone else using an on-premise solution? Preferably free & open source.

                                          Smoke signals--however the cool thing is we use coloring so you can differentiate the clouds.

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                                          • bbigfordB
                                            bbigford
                                            last edited by bbigford

                                            I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB). 🙂

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