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      Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Jason said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Jason said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Dashrender said:

      While sure people like Scott want to do this crazy 4/8K video stuff, that's either a maxed out prosumer thing, or clearly mid class business stuff, and you should be through some real capital at solving that problem, not chump change.

      If you are dealing with a video production business, which is a very common thing, you need this all of the time.

      Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

      Sure it is. 10GigE is not that expensive. You could get desktop motherboards with dual 10GigE in 2014: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8781/asrock-x99-ws-e-10g-motherboard-review-dual-10gbaset-for-prosumers

      Err I mean to the Mac..

      Oh well, if you have a Mac, nothing is going to be cheap.

      Thunderbolt to 10GBe is $500

      Not horrible but not great.

      It's dumb to me that no mac has 10GBe on board yet.

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller @Jason
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        @Jason said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Jason said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Dashrender said:

        While sure people like Scott want to do this crazy 4/8K video stuff, that's either a maxed out prosumer thing, or clearly mid class business stuff, and you should be through some real capital at solving that problem, not chump change.

        If you are dealing with a video production business, which is a very common thing, you need this all of the time.

        Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

        Sure it is. 10GigE is not that expensive. You could get desktop motherboards with dual 10GigE in 2014: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8781/asrock-x99-ws-e-10g-motherboard-review-dual-10gbaset-for-prosumers

        Err I mean to the Mac..

        Oh well, if you have a Mac, nothing is going to be cheap.

        Thunderbolt to 10GBe is $500

        Ehhh cost of admission to the 10GBe club. Really if you're after performance that'll be couch cushion change after you've got a sexy NAS and HDD's

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          scottalanmiller @Jason
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          @Jason said:

          It's dumb to me that no mac has 10GBe on board yet.

          Just doesn't seem to be the Mac wheelhouse. They have very specific markets.

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            Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Jason said:

            It's dumb to me that no mac has 10GBe on board yet.

            Just doesn't seem to be the Mac wheelhouse. They have very specific markets.

            yeah anymore it's consumer-ish not Pro.. Sadly video codecs just work better on macs because developers focus their time there more.

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              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

              The first one I found is $700. But that's a super high end board with dual 10GigE built in and able to handle 128GB of RAM from 2014. If you are doing high end video processing, a few hundred extra for your Mobo is going to be expected anyway. This would not add that much onto the overall system cost. Often people are dropping $3K on these machines already.

              LOL - like I said - NOT Cheap!

              Then how much is a switch, assuming you need one? The chassis will be rather expensive as well for those drives.

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                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                Then how much is a switch, assuming you need one?
                http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-12-Port-10GBase-T-XS712T-100NES/dp/B00BWBLL6S

                About $1550 to start.

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Then how much is a switch, assuming you need one?
                  http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSAFE-12-Port-10GBase-T-XS712T-100NES/dp/B00BWBLL6S

                  About $1550 to start.

                  $850 for an 8 port

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    It's pretty close to $100/port these days.

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                      Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                      The first one I found is $700. But that's a super high end board with dual 10GigE built in and able to handle 128GB of RAM from 2014. If you are doing high end video processing, a few hundred extra for your Mobo is going to be expected anyway. This would not add that much onto the overall system cost. Often people are dropping $3K on these machines already.

                      LOL - like I said - NOT Cheap!

                      Then how much is a switch, assuming you need one? The chassis will be rather expensive as well for those drives.

                      You could just directly plug in without a switch if needed. Quad ports and such will do no good unless the PC using it has the same number of ports anyway..

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        That, too.

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller @Jason
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                          @Jason said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                          The first one I found is $700. But that's a super high end board with dual 10GigE built in and able to handle 128GB of RAM from 2014. If you are doing high end video processing, a few hundred extra for your Mobo is going to be expected anyway. This would not add that much onto the overall system cost. Often people are dropping $3K on these machines already.

                          LOL - like I said - NOT Cheap!

                          Then how much is a switch, assuming you need one? The chassis will be rather expensive as well for those drives.

                          You could just directly plug in without a switch if needed.

                          Considering you'll need a dongle for the 10GBe and the mac's don't use a proper dock.... I don't see the down side to that. If anything it's smarter, fewer devices to die in the chain.

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                            Jason Banned @MattSpeller
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                            @MattSpeller said:

                            @Jason said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                            The first one I found is $700. But that's a super high end board with dual 10GigE built in and able to handle 128GB of RAM from 2014. If you are doing high end video processing, a few hundred extra for your Mobo is going to be expected anyway. This would not add that much onto the overall system cost. Often people are dropping $3K on these machines already.

                            LOL - like I said - NOT Cheap!

                            Then how much is a switch, assuming you need one? The chassis will be rather expensive as well for those drives.

                            You could just directly plug in without a switch if needed.

                            Considering you'll need a dongle for the 10GBe and the mac's don't use a proper dock.... I don't see the down side to that. If anything it's smarter, fewer devices to die in the chain.

                            Yeah this is the closest thing to a dock http://www.landingzone.net/products/macbook-docks/

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                              wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @Jason said:

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              If you want one that actually works nicely and "does what it says on the tin" then check out these bad boys.

                              http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822108185 (Canadian link, Canadian $$$)

                              For cheaper you could whitebox a solution but then it'd be network only.

                              Edit: why not network it? I've seen you ask for local connections but no reason for it.

                              Needs to be DAS. NAS isn't nearly fast enough for the data. also Macbooks are Wifi only making it worse.

                              In my experience you'll have better performance from gigabit ethernet than you will with USB3. eSATA would be better than both, but not by much. Can't speak to thunderbolt.

                              GigE can easily be carried over USB3. USB3 is much faster... lower latency, higher throughput.

                              Much shorter distances though.

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                                MattSpeller @Jason
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                                @Jason said:

                                @MattSpeller said:

                                @Jason said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                                The first one I found is $700. But that's a super high end board with dual 10GigE built in and able to handle 128GB of RAM from 2014. If you are doing high end video processing, a few hundred extra for your Mobo is going to be expected anyway. This would not add that much onto the overall system cost. Often people are dropping $3K on these machines already.

                                LOL - like I said - NOT Cheap!

                                Then how much is a switch, assuming you need one? The chassis will be rather expensive as well for those drives.

                                You could just directly plug in without a switch if needed.

                                Considering you'll need a dongle for the 10GBe and the mac's don't use a proper dock.... I don't see the down side to that. If anything it's smarter, fewer devices to die in the chain.

                                Yeah this is the closest thing to a dock http://www.landingzone.net/products/macbook-docks/

                                Dude I had no idea those were a thing... You just earned me serious brownie points with my Mac loving boss.

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                                  Jason Banned @MattSpeller
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                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  @Jason said:

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  @Jason said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Sure, but it's not going to be cheap!

                                  The first one I found is $700. But that's a super high end board with dual 10GigE built in and able to handle 128GB of RAM from 2014. If you are doing high end video processing, a few hundred extra for your Mobo is going to be expected anyway. This would not add that much onto the overall system cost. Often people are dropping $3K on these machines already.

                                  LOL - like I said - NOT Cheap!

                                  Then how much is a switch, assuming you need one? The chassis will be rather expensive as well for those drives.

                                  You could just directly plug in without a switch if needed.

                                  Considering you'll need a dongle for the 10GBe and the mac's don't use a proper dock.... I don't see the down side to that. If anything it's smarter, fewer devices to die in the chain.

                                  Yeah this is the closest thing to a dock http://www.landingzone.net/products/macbook-docks/

                                  Dude I had no idea those were a thing... You just earned me serious brownie points with my Mac loving boss.

                                  Your boss can buy me one as a gift 🙂 I still don't have one.

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