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    BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer

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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
      last edited by

      That issue is now fixed! 🙂

      Good thing I remembered that!
      https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/b3f18d7a-8c95-42dc-a0bd-3ca81e26d669/error-on-boot-stop-c0000135-unable-to-locate-component-csrsrvdll-not-found-reinstalling-the?forum=winservergen

      Well after a few blips, it seems to have worked.

      Should I install XenTools?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Yes, you always need the PV drivers for any hypervisor that you want to use (including Hyper-V) or you get crappy performance.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Yes, you always need the PV drivers for any hypervisor that you want to use (including Hyper-V) or you get crappy performance.

          Are those included in the install "XenTools" option?

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          • coliverC
            coliver @BRRABill
            last edited by

            @BRRABill said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Yes, you always need the PV drivers for any hypervisor that you want to use (including Hyper-V) or you get crappy performance.

            Are those included in the install "XenTools" option?

            They are the XenTools.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @coliver
              last edited by

              @coliver said:

              They are the XenTools.

              Okie dokie!

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              • coliverC
                coliver @BRRABill
                last edited by

                @BRRABill said:

                @coliver said:

                They are the XenTools.

                Okie dokie!

                Well, I should say, they are included, sorry. There is some additional stuff in the Windows XenTools that does some other things. Mostly it is the PV drivers you are installing though.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  I was not able to adjust memory before. Now after XenTools I can. (You can also see memory usage which is nice.)

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @FATeknollogee
                    last edited by

                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    Not to side track this thread (apologies to @BRRABill ), what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

                    To all you XS experts, what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

                    Similar to Starwind in the Windows world

                    XenServer is natively that in the Xen world. Nothing additional needed.

                    If you had 2, 3 or more XS bare metal installs with local drives, how do you "hyperconverge" all the local disks?

                    Are you saying with XS the "hyperconvergence" just auto-magically happens?

                    Of course not, but it doesn't for any platform. If you're setting up a greenfield situation, then you design it from the ground up with XS with single shared storage.

                    Let's try this again:

                    In Windows, you can take multiple boxes, add Starwind or Datacore = hyperconverged using local storage (no SAN needed).

                    How do you do the same thing with XS?

                    This can do HC for XenServer:
                    http://www.atlantiscomputing.com/products/atlantis-usx

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1
                      last edited by

                      If you REALLY REALLY WANT a gui to get HA setup and running on XenServer, maybe give HA-Lizard a look. Haven't used it myself yet (single host), but I've heard it talked about enough to remember it.... the name is kinda memorable.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @travisdh1
                        last edited by

                        @travisdh1 said:

                        If you REALLY REALLY WANT a gui to get HA setup and running on XenServer, maybe give HA-Lizard a look. Haven't used it myself yet (single host), but I've heard it talked about enough to remember it.... the name is kinda memorable.

                        It's something I want to configure as well, 2 new host, and then download the HA-Lizard client to both, supposedly it handles the entire configuration from what @halizard said in a previous post.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          XS (and XO) show the provisioned size of the virtual disk. Is there a way to show how much space it is actually taking up?

                          (For example in Hyper-V you could just look at the size of the VHD.)

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill said:

                            XS (and XO) show the provisioned size of the virtual disk. Is there a way to show how much space it is actually taking up?

                            (For example in Hyper-V you could just look at the size of the VHD.)

                            Same, you either look at the storage device and query it and/or you look at the size of the filesystem image file.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              Yep there is.
                              Go to the Dashboard first

                              From the dashboard find the Storage Repository (SR)
                              Click on it.
                              0_1458834912641_1-dash.JPG

                              Now scroll down a little and you'll see your VHDs

                              0_1458834962492_2-VHD size.JPG

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                I fumbled around for about 5 mins before I bumped my way into this.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  or you look at the size of the filesystem image file.

                                  Is that functionality available in XC or XO?

                                  In Hyper-V you can right click the storage and it tells you provisioned size and size on disk.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender

                                    But that doesn't tell you virtual drive by virtual drive. Only the main XS drive. (Which you can also see in XC.)

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by Dashrender

                                      What you mean Willis? (Different Strokes reference)

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        What you mean Willis? (Different Strokes reference)

                                        I guess in reality it doesn't matter. You'd be managing the drive sizes in each VM, so it would never be an issue.

                                        I just like to know hey ... this virtual disk is only 10% full without going into the VM itself to check. Pretty easy to do in Hyper-V. I figured it was in XC/XO as well, but I was just missing it.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          What you mean Willis? (Different Strokes reference)

                                          I guess in reality it doesn't matter. You'd be managing the drive sizes in each VM, so it would never be an issue.

                                          I just like to know hey ... this virtual disk is only 10% full without going into the VM itself to check. Pretty easy to do in Hyper-V. I figured it was in XC/XO as well, but I was just missing it.

                                          Aww.. OK I gotcha now..
                                          i thought there was a place to see the assigned space vs the used space - can't see to find it right now.. of course I'm guessing the VDH doesn't shrink when you delete things.. so it will only show the max size it ever was.

                                          I thought you only wanted to see how large an assigned VHD was - not the actual internal usage inside the VHD... but I understand now.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            Also - @BRRABill the ability of Hyper-V Manager to show you the used storage space might only apply to Windows based VMs. That seems pretty likely.

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