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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      Yes, that is the proper way to do it both from a XenServer and from a StorageCraft perspective.

      Why is that, exactly?

      Because restoring to specific platform targets rather than generic isn't practical or purposeful. Why import from a overly specific process for one platform when you can have a uniform process for any? If you were purely on just one platform, then it would be six of one, half a dozen of another, but you are not and few people are.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        Haven't done this recently but I think you just share it, and put in the creds in XenCenter.

        What creds, though? Your user account? Do you create an account for the XenServer?

        That would be up to you and is purely a Windows question.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          That would be up to you and is purely a Windows question.

          I am looking for ML best practice! 🙂

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Really pretty trivial, it's a read only ISO store from your desktop.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill
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              BTW: last night I found there IS a way in XenCenter to force it to check for updates and then force an install.

              From the ISO on their webpage, there are probably 25-30 updates needed to my fresh install.

              Strangely, most of them needed a reboot which I thought was weird.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said:

                BTW: last night I found there IS a way in XenCenter to force it to check for updates and then force an install.

                From the ISO on their webpage, there are probably 25-30 updates needed to my fresh install.

                Strangely, most of them needed a reboot which I thought was weird.

                sooooo.... how did you force it?

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  sooooo.... how did you force it?

                  First, if you want it to check for new version of XenServer, you have to go into TOOLS and OPTIONS and UPDATES and select that box.

                  To check for and install updates, go to the Notifications tab. Then go to UPDATES. Then click on REFRESH. It will give you a list of the updates, and an option to DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL.

                  I've only been able to install them one at a time.

                  QUESTION:
                  It is generally recommended to install every update they offer?

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    sooooo.... how did you force it?

                    First, if you want it to check for new version of XenServer, you have to go into TOOLS and OPTIONS and UPDATES and select that box.

                    To check for and install updates, go to the Notifications tab. Then go to UPDATES. Then click on REFRESH. It will give you a list of the updates, and an option to DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL.

                    I've only been able to install them one at a time.

                    QUESTION:
                    It is generally recommended to install every update they offer?

                    Yes. As is the case in 95% of instances.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      I thought the updates were cumulative?

                      OK I just looked, the answer is - sorta, but not exactly.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        I was really surprised at

                        a--how many there were and
                        b--that most of them needed rebooting

                        I thought that was one of the things non-Windows admins always railed about, how you always have to reboot with Windows updates and not so much with non-Windows systems.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said:

                          I was really surprised at

                          a--how many there were and
                          b--that most of them needed rebooting

                          I thought that was one of the things non-Windows admins always railed about, how you always have to reboot with Windows updates and not so much with non-Windows systems.

                          Rebooting is generally a good idea regardless. That being said I haven't had to reboot XenServer because of an update in a long time. Although I am running a very out of date version.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said:

                            I was really surprised at

                            a--how many there were and
                            b--that most of them needed rebooting

                            I thought that was one of the things non-Windows admins always railed about, how you always have to reboot with Windows updates and not so much with non-Windows systems.

                            Rebooting for security updates has never been a railing point for any sys admin.

                            A lot of updates don't require the host to be reboot, think of Debian and CentOS. You can patch on the fly.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill
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                              In XenServer:

                              When you select a size for a virtual disk, is that the max size it can grow to, or the actual size it is taking up?

                              For example, with Hyper-V, with a dynamic disk, if you say the size is 40GB, it appears as 40GB to the OS on the VM, but only takes up as much space as there is data on the host hard drive.

                              And since I picked "thin provisioning" in setup, ALL virtual disks will be dynamic, correct?

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said:

                                In XenServer:

                                When you select a size for a virtual disk, is that the max size it can grow to, or the actual size it is taking up?

                                For example, with Hyper-V, with a dynamic disk, if you say the size is 40GB, it appears as 40GB to the OS on the VM, but only takes up as much space as there is data on the host hard drive.

                                And since I picked "thin provisioning" in setup, ALL virtual disks will be dynamic, correct?

                                Correct, the size of the virtual disk in this instance is the max size the disk can grow.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @BRRABill
                                  last edited by Dashrender

                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  In XenServer:

                                  When you select a size for a virtual disk, is that the max size it can grow to, or the actual size it is taking up?

                                  For example, with Hyper-V, with a dynamic disk, if you say the size is 40GB, it appears as 40GB to the OS on the VM, but only takes up as much space as there is data on the host hard drive.

                                  And since I picked "thin provisioning" in setup, ALL virtual disks will be dynamic, correct?

                                  that depends on the option you picked earlier.

                                  Remember you started your datastore over because Scott suggested that you pick thin provisioning.

                                  Unlike Windows, it's all or nothing so it appears on XS. All VMs are thin provisioned on a disk, or none.

                                  So in this case you don't need to be asked. The expectation is you know the setting of your data store, and that setting will be applied.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill
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                                    Well the BMR test actually went pretty well. Up until boot time, that is. 🙂

                                    I am getting this error:
                                    "Windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware configuration problem. Could not read from selected boot disk."

                                    Hoping I just need to edit a file somewhere...

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill
                                      Or you could have an out of order drive set like Scott did the other day.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @BRRABill
                                        Or you could have an out of order drive set like Scott did the other day.

                                        What chu talkin bout Willis?

                                        I've found almost every BMR I've ever done has issues.

                                        I'm using the Datto device, and almost always have to use the ShadowProtect Recovery ISO.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @BRRABill
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                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @BRRABill
                                          Or you could have an out of order drive set like Scott did the other day.

                                          What chu talkin bout Willis?

                                          I've found almost every BMR I've ever done has issues.

                                          I'm using the Datto device, and almost always have to use the ShadowProtect Recovery ISO.

                                          I don't know what a Datto device is, or the shadowprotect (is that a product?) is.

                                          I use Appassure as my backup product.

                                          To do a bare metal restore I have to options: PXE boot or boot from CD/iso.

                                          Then pull the backups down...sometimes the restore process will allow me to provide storage drivers which it will then inject into the new VM. Otherwise I have to boot from the install media and do a repair and provide the storage drivers.

                                          Additionally, I've had recoveries where the system didn't set the boot disk to active so the system would even try to boot.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            To do a bare metal restore I have to options: PXE boot or boot from CD/iso.

                                            PXE Boot has nothing to do with it directly. it simply a remote ISO instead of CD/DVD/USB plugged in directly.

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