Hosted PBX
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@wrx7m said:
@scottalanmiller Yeah I am sure that the bandwidth isn't an issue for most now but that isn't the only thing. Latency and jitter, etc.
Latency is almost never an issue. Check some lines sometime, last time I saw someone with latency issues it was @Minion-Queen talking over a sat link from central Africa. I have been doing International calling on VoIP for years and latency isn't an issue.
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@scottalanmiller Interesting...
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Now Jitter, that's a real issue even on good lines. But you can normally solve that by switching to a more reliable carrier like adding an SSL VPN which reorders the packets.
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@scottalanmiller good to know about the ssl vpn reordering the packets.
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@wrx7m said:
@scottalanmiller good to know about the ssl vpn reorganizing the packets.
I first saw that as a solution around 2005, back when jitter was a bitter issue, that people were getting better audio rather than worse over SSH, which was very counter intuitive.
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@scottalanmiller Yeah you would think it would have the opposite effect.
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I'm doing semi-regular conference calls from Crete and it is working here. I think this is a great example of just how incredibly good VoIP is today. Our SIP termination is at JFK in Brooklyn. Our PBX is by the airport in Chicago. I'm on a remote island at the southern tip of Europe as close to Turkey as to mainland Greece and only slightly farther from Libya. My house connection has to connect from the little village I am in to a small local city, from there to the big city on the island, from there up to Athens (no idea how it gets there... undersea cable seems unlikely) then from Athens likely to Belgium. Then over to NYC. Then out to Chicago to connect to the PBX. Then from the PBX it comes all the way back to NYC to hit the SIP trunk.
All that and the audio is just fine. Haven't had any issues yet.
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In 2009 I worked for a week and a half from a SIP phone on my laptop on hotel wifi in Germany connecting to a Canadian PBX to a US SIP trunk and it sounded fine, even with wifi in a hotel seven years ago and three countries involved at a minimum.
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@scottalanmiller Wow... Does geographic location have any bearing on the best SIP provider?
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@scottalanmiller I thought you were in Spain these days.
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@wrx7m said:
@scottalanmiller Wow... Does geographic location have any bearing on the best SIP provider?
Some, but not nearly as much as people think. You do want your PBX and SIP landing location to have a great connection between them. You don't likely want them in different countries. But as long as the latency is low, bandwidth adequate and the trunk reliable, doesn't really matter.
It's all networking, not physical location. So if you have 4ms latency to the SIP landing point, even if it is a billion miles away you don't care.
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@wrx7m said:
@scottalanmiller I thought you were in Spain these days.
That was three countries ago. I was living in Spain a year ago. Spent the summer in Panama with @Bob-Beatty and @pchiodo. Then spent the fall in Nicaragua. In Greece (Crete) for the winter. I'll be moving up to Transylvania for the spring. Then the plan is Quebec for the summer.
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@scottalanmiller Holy cow! Geez. So you just love to travel or is this all work-related, both? And Romania is crazy.
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@scottalanmiller I thought you said latency wasn't really a thing
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@wrx7m said:
@scottalanmiller Holy cow! Geez. So you just love to travel or is this all work-related, both? And Romania is crazy.
Love to travel. We worked really hard to get a lifestyle like this.
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@wrx7m said:
@scottalanmiller I thought you said latency wasn't really a thing
That's what I meant... even with my most extreme locations (not just distance, but things like remote mountain villages or small town on a distant island) the latency isn't enough to be an issue.
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Now once you hit a satellite link... you are screwed. You go to 2 seconds on that one link alone. Game over.
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But on a sat link, non-VoIP audio is useless, too.
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@Each1teach1x27 said:
@gjacobse I know you didn't acquire all those certs to spend your time fiddling around with a phone system
The only Cert I have is Net+ ; all other knowledge has been 30 years of tinkering and just doing things. I learn better when figuring out what button to not push that what someone got paid to write about.... Now I do read white papers and other things.. But I just sit and figure things out. I've done some reverse engineering on systems and web pages as well.
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@scottalanmiller I don't doubt it.
