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    Rocket.Chat 0.18.1 Released

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    • tonyshowoffT
      tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      We are going to roll it out for the lab. Overkill for the purpose, but why not have a place for people to collaborate live in the lab?

      Well, we've got an older internal system and that's why I'm waiting to replace it, no real rush. If you have nothing, then obviously it's definitely the way to go. It's very impressive. Anything to help knock slack down a notch for being so damn overinvested in.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Yeah, Rocket makes Slack kind of nutty to even consider.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          Yeah, Rocket makes Slack kind of nutty to even consider.

          Someone makes an expensive product that people seem like, so the Open Source community makes a clone that's free - I love it!

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            That the risk that you run when you make a close source app and get greedy. If it was priced well, almost no one would have an interest in replicating it. Or if the product isn't any good, like Lync, lol. But if you make something decent and charge way too much, someone is going to show that what you produced wasn't really worth all that money.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Installing this thing appears to be a nightmare. Their docs for FreeBSD and Ubuntu are both wrong and those are the only OSes that they appear to have docs for.

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              • tonyshowoffT
                tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                Installing this thing appears to be a nightmare. Their docs for FreeBSD and Ubuntu are both wrong and those are the only OSes that they appear to have docs for.

                I had a hell of a time myself, it was like pulling teeth. I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the docs were wrong, glad it wasn't just me.

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                • gjacobseG
                  gjacobse
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                  I wonder about setting something like this up for my family... we all have iOS devices,.. so why not add the ability to chat within the family.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Instructions now available...

                    http://mangolassi.it/topic/8086/installing-rocket-chat-on-centos-7

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @gjacobse
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                      @gjacobse said:

                      I wonder about setting something like this up for my family... we all have iOS devices,.. so why not add the ability to chat within the family.

                      I think the free slack would be better, unless you need the message history. Less to manage, and you can take advantage of the integrations.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        We got it working! A solid installer script working time after time. Woot!

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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                          @johnhooks said:

                          @gjacobse said:

                          I wonder about setting something like this up for my family... we all have iOS devices,.. so why not add the ability to chat within the family.

                          I think the free slack would be better, unless you need the message history. Less to manage, and you can take advantage of the integrations.

                          right for small personal use, free slack is fine.. It is large organizations that have issues with Slack.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch said:

                            @johnhooks said:

                            @gjacobse said:

                            I wonder about setting something like this up for my family... we all have iOS devices,.. so why not add the ability to chat within the family.

                            I think the free slack would be better, unless you need the message history. Less to manage, and you can take advantage of the integrations.

                            right for small personal use, free slack is fine.. It is large organizations that have issues with Slack.

                            Surprisingly Scott is saying that you don't have issues, because large west coast companies are using it.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              @JaredBusch said:

                              @johnhooks said:

                              @gjacobse said:

                              I wonder about setting something like this up for my family... we all have iOS devices,.. so why not add the ability to chat within the family.

                              I think the free slack would be better, unless you need the message history. Less to manage, and you can take advantage of the integrations.

                              right for small personal use, free slack is fine.. It is large organizations that have issues with Slack.

                              Surprisingly Scott is saying that you don't have issues, because large west coast companies are using it.

                              Depends on what you call large. West coast companies tend to be smaller than east coast F500. I think he's saying that an 10K person company may have issues. I'd expect... chatter for one thing. Slack is designed around amplifying noise, not suppressing it.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
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                                I was saying that larger organizations find free Slack much too limiting. But in retrospect, even a small organization will quickly find the free limits restricting.

                                I realize that an asston of companies are paying and using it.

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                                • AmbarishrhA
                                  Ambarishrh
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                                  Mattermost seems to be another alternative to Slack which is now integrated with gitlab. Seems like the same incoming and outgoing webhook integrations are on mattermost as well. http://www.mattermost.org/

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    I was saying that larger organizations find free Slack much too limiting. But in retrospect, even a small organization will quickly find the free limits restricting.

                                    I realize that an asston of companies are paying and using it.

                                    Ah, all of my experience has been companies paying for it (outside of NTG testing it and in fifteen minutes finding the free one too limiting.)

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
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                                      @Ambarishrh said:

                                      Mattermost seems to be another alternative to Slack which is now integrated with gitlab. Seems like the same incoming and outgoing webhook integrations are on mattermost as well. http://www.mattermost.org/

                                      Looks quite good.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        @scottalanmiller where you were talking about clutter - I think you said that these types of programs will create more not less clutter than email?

                                        Is that a good or bad thing?

                                        For a moment I was thinking that these would be safer for than email for things like attachments and links, but then I realize if the user can send via these programs, so can a virus.

                                        One advantage that we can have with these types of programs though is that we can chat at or near real time about things that are being exchanged. So if something just kinda popped in there, we should be skeptical before opening it, but then I realized that a bot could be made to have a mini conversation over it as well....

                                        Damn this is hard 😞

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          These things definitely add clutter. Having worked a few places that use them, it gets really messy, really quickly.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
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                                            I just want a universal replacement for email - I hate it, I Hate it, I HATE it!

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