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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN
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      thank you for your help

      but what Atom do exactly ?? is it an editor or a converter from web to desktop ??

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        thank you for your help

        but what Atom do exactly ?? is it an editor or a converter from web to desktop ??

        It is an advanced text editor, similar to Sublime or Notepad++.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          The Nylas N1 email client that I use is web based as well, but locally installed.

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            IT-ADMIN
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            wow, it is very important what are saying now, this mean i can put some design on my web application and after converting it to be like a desktop app, it will looks woow even with fewer design because it will looks better than a normal desktop application

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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              @IT-ADMIN said:

              wow, it is very important what are saying now, this mean i can put some design on my web application and after converting it to be like a desktop app, it will looks woow even with fewer design because it will looks better than a normal desktop application

              Well these are especially good examples. You can make very, very ugly web applications as well 🙂 However, it can be pretty easy to make web applications look nice, too.

              If you read the most popular Ruby on Rails development tutorial, for example, they show how to use Twitter Bootstrap with just a single line of code to apply a very attractive template to your work so you need to do no design at all (other than that one line.) It will not look as nice as Atom, but you can get very nice, very easily, too.

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              • IT-ADMINI
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                you are the Boss Scott 😉

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                  Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  You can make a web app look, feel and behave just like a desktop app.

                  Maybe so, but for the two main applications that I use most of the time - Microsoft Office and Microsoft Dynamics - the desktop app is superior to the web app, to the extent that I rarely use the web app at all.

                  Maybe it is possible to create web apps that are the equal of their desktop equivalents, but I've yet to see it.

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  There is a reason why desktop apps of this nature have been considered a legacy design (for business applications) since the early 2000s.

                  What nature? Desktop apps still rule as far as I can tell. I rarely use web apps apart from for very simple applications.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    you are the Boss Scott 😉

                    Thanks 🙂

                    Do you know what web application frameworks you are likely to use? Microsoft has some nice ones, but well worth considering are Node.js and Ruby on Rails as languages.

                    For Node.js, check out the Meteor framework.

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                      scottalanmiller
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                      https://www.meteor.com/

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        The Atom team from GitHub also makes the framework that they use for Atom available to make your own applications. It is called Electron.

                        http://electron.atom.io/

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                          IT-ADMIN
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Ruby on Rails development tutorial

                          thanks a lot

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            https://www.railstutorial.org/

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                            • IT-ADMINI
                              IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              https://www.railstutorial.org/

                              this book is not free lol

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                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                https://www.railstutorial.org/

                                this book is not free lol

                                https://www.railstutorial.org/book

                                Sure is. Says right on the main page "Read Free Online"

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                                • IT-ADMINI
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                                  if i work with web application, i will use preexisting template , i will just customize the php code to meet the business need, i cannot crack my head with the design, it is another world (CSS, javascript, jquery and some other scary stuff) the template make our life easier

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                                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    if i work with web application, i will use preexisting template , i will just customize the php code to meet the business need, i cannot crack my head with the design, it is another world (CSS, javascript, jquery and some other scary stuff) the template make our life easier

                                    None of that book is design.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      how i can do that ?? a web application is different than windows application, they are totally 2 different things, the web application need a web browser to run while the windows application do not,

                                      Yes and no. Do you need a web browser for MS Office? Yet it is a web app. You can make a web app look, feel and behave just like a desktop app. You can even install it locally.

                                      What makes Office 2013 a web app? I'm assuming that this means when you install Office 2013, you're installing a webserver and a private special browser just for use with Office?

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                                        IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        if i work with web application, i will use preexisting template , i will just customize the php code to meet the business need, i cannot crack my head with the design, it is another world (CSS, javascript, jquery and some other scary stuff) the template make our life easier

                                        None of that book is design.

                                        you mean it is a programming language, right?
                                        but wait, why should i learn new language while i already knew one ???

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                                          Dashrender @Carnival Boy
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                                          @Carnival-Boy said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          You can make a web app look, feel and behave just like a desktop app.

                                          Maybe so, but for the two main applications that I use most of the time - Microsoft Office and Microsoft Dynamics - the desktop app is superior to the web app, to the extent that I rarely use the web app at all.

                                          Maybe it is possible to create web apps that are the equal of their desktop equivalents, but I've yet to see it.

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          There is a reason why desktop apps of this nature have been considered a legacy design (for business applications) since the early 2000s.

                                          What nature? Desktop apps still rule as far as I can tell. I rarely use web apps apart from for very simple applications.

                                          And this is where the confusion comes in.

                                          According to Scott - Office 2013 installed locally on the desktop (on Windows) is a web app. So is the web app version of Word that you can get with Office 365.

                                          So my question is... why aren't they the same? What prevents MS from having them be identical, or at least nearly so?

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                                            Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
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                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            if i work with web application, i will use preexisting template , i will just customize the php code to meet the business need, i cannot crack my head with the design, it is another world (CSS, javascript, jquery and some other scary stuff) the template make our life easier

                                            None of that book is design.

                                            you mean it is a programming language, right?
                                            but wait, why should i learn new language while i already knew one ???

                                            Because it's outdated and doesn't apply to modern development?

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