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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said:

      @coliver said:

      Get a prime membership for less then that and add several users (I don't remember the amount) to listen to as much music as you want.

      Nowhere near the same library size. I think it is something like 1 million versus 30 million.

      Are you comparing only thee paid library from one and the free from the other?

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        Are you comparing only thee paid library from one and the free from the other?

        Yes, because the end goal is to get the music I want, and I am willing to pay for it.

        I wish Amazon had a paid service similar to Apple Music/Google Play/Rhapsody.

        It would be my new love.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          I didn't know you could also upload your stuff to Amazon Music.

          Since I buy all my stuff from there, that might make the most sense for me. I've recently started uploading everything to Google Play.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @BRRABill
            last edited by

            @BRRABill said:

            @coliver said:

            Get a prime membership for less then that and add several users (I don't remember the amount) to listen to as much music as you want.

            Nowhere near the same library size. I think it is something like 1 million versus 30 million.

            Is that right?

            With Apple streaming you get access to 30 Million and with Amazon Prime you only get access to 1 Million?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said:

              I didn't know you could also upload your stuff to Amazon Music.

              Since I buy all my stuff from there, that might make the most sense for me. I've recently started uploading everything to Google Play.

              I'm not sure in either case you are actually uploading anything - from what I read, they see what song it it you are uploading and then just add the in cloud version to your account.. now you can stream it anytime you want.

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                If they don't have existing Windows experience then ANY logic for using Windows now has to evaporate (except for maybe gaming.) But even coming from Windows, Mint is generally easier.

                Apparently they have been using Windows for years, but through AOL or something.

                I think a good pop-up blocker as @RojoLoco suggested would be key here.

                And education, as I mentioned.

                After reading that, all I could think of was....
                not how work

                All you can do is educate, educate, educate.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Are you comparing only thee paid library from one and the free from the other?

                  Yes, because the end goal is to get the music I want, and I am willing to pay for it.

                  I wish Amazon had a paid service similar to Apple Music/Google Play/Rhapsody.

                  It would be my new love.

                  but if you were willing ot pay for it, Amazon's service is so much bigger than you are looking at.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    I'm not sure in either case you are actually uploading anything - from what I read, they see what song it it you are uploading and then just add the in cloud version to your account.. now you can stream it anytime you want.

                    Right. Though it appears on Google Play it has been actually uploading my stuff, though I can't tell.

                    For example, I had an older MP3 album in 128bitrate. It has that version in my library.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @BRRABill said:

                      I didn't know you could also upload your stuff to Amazon Music.

                      Since I buy all my stuff from there, that might make the most sense for me. I've recently started uploading everything to Google Play.

                      I'm not sure in either case you are actually uploading anything - from what I read, they see what song it it you are uploading and then just add the in cloud version to your account.. now you can stream it anytime you want.

                      That's just dedupe, you can upload yourself singing a song if you want. There is no way that they already have that there.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        Again the biggest issue people who have been doing it for any amount of time is - Moving.

                        People don't want to move to something new, especially if they have to somehow move their old collection of owned stuff to a new service.

                        Here's a great example.
                        I buy all of my movies today through Vudu. If Vudu goes tits up, I'm screwed.

                        If another service that's better than Vudu comes along, I'll be forced to either use two service or rebuy all of my movies on the new service (who wants to do that?).

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          but if you were willing ot pay for it, Amazon's service is so much bigger than you are looking at.

                          Amazon has a full streaming service? That would be exactly what I was looking for.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            but if you were willing ot pay for it, Amazon's service is so much bigger than you are looking at.

                            Amazon has a full streaming service? That would be exactly what I was looking for.

                            Yes, it is free with Prime. Amazon has ALWAYS had streaming service since their first music system released. That's been part of what they have done from the beginning.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @BRRABill said:

                              I didn't know you could also upload your stuff to Amazon Music.

                              Since I buy all my stuff from there, that might make the most sense for me. I've recently started uploading everything to Google Play.

                              I'm not sure in either case you are actually uploading anything - from what I read, they see what song it it you are uploading and then just add the in cloud version to your account.. now you can stream it anytime you want.

                              That's just dedupe, you can upload yourself singing a song if you want. There is no way that they already have that there.

                              True enough, but it's better than dedup.. if you have a crappy rip you did on your own machine and upload that, they replace it with the much better version they keep in the cloud.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @BRRABill said:

                                I didn't know you could also upload your stuff to Amazon Music.

                                Since I buy all my stuff from there, that might make the most sense for me. I've recently started uploading everything to Google Play.

                                I'm not sure in either case you are actually uploading anything - from what I read, they see what song it it you are uploading and then just add the in cloud version to your account.. now you can stream it anytime you want.

                                That's just dedupe, you can upload yourself singing a song if you want. There is no way that they already have that there.

                                True enough, but it's better than dedup.. if you have a crappy rip you did on your own machine and upload that, they replace it with the much better version they keep in the cloud.

                                Ah, I see. Interesting.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Again the biggest issue people who have been doing it for any amount of time is - Moving.

                                  People don't want to move to something new, especially if they have to somehow move their old collection of owned stuff to a new service.

                                  Here's a great example.
                                  I buy all of my movies today through Vudu. If Vudu goes tits up, I'm screwed.

                                  If another service that's better than Vudu comes along, I'll be forced to either use two service or rebuy all of my movies on the new service (who wants to do that?).

                                  I have 75% of my stuff in iTunes. It's all DRM, but there.

                                  I also have stuff in Google Play (can't ever resist all the free albums they give away) and Amazon.

                                  Trying to move that stuff around and keep it optimized makes sense, but it's a PITA.

                                  I also don't like having a backup of the music. I figure once I upload it to Google Play or Amazon, I can delete it from the local machine, right?

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    True enough, but it's better than dedup.. if you have a crappy rip you did on your own machine and upload that, they replace it with the much better version they keep in the cloud.

                                    Which service?

                                    I have not seen that with Google Play. Which is annoying.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      but if you were willing ot pay for it, Amazon's service is so much bigger than you are looking at.

                                      Amazon has a full streaming service? That would be exactly what I was looking for.

                                      Yes, it is free with Prime. Amazon has ALWAYS had streaming service since their first music system released. That's been part of what they have done from the beginning.

                                      That I didn't know.

                                      I don't know if Amazon has true family sharing, or if you have to add the master account to all of the devices that you want to have access to the streaming service.

                                      Google streaming now has a family plan for $15/month for 6 users, there is a master account, and that account can add 5 more child accounts that gain access to the streaming.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Yes, it is free with Prime. Amazon has ALWAYS had streaming service since their first music system released. That's been part of what they have done from the beginning.

                                        But MOST of the music I want to listen to is NOT on there. As I said, they have a much, much smaller library.

                                        I looked at it when you suggested it before, and none of the stuff I was listening to that day was on Amazon.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          True enough, but it's better than dedup.. if you have a crappy rip you did on your own machine and upload that, they replace it with the much better version they keep in the cloud.

                                          Which service?

                                          I have not seen that with Google Play. Which is annoying.

                                          Google Play is where I read about that happening specifically.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            Which service?

                                            I have not seen that with Google Play. Which is annoying.

                                            Google Play is where I read about that happening specifically.

                                            So in theory, if I upload a 128bit MP3, it should let me download a higher quality version of it?

                                            Also, they limit your downloads to 2. I think you can put their software on your machine to get around that, but I am not sure yet.

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