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    • olivierO
      olivier @DustinB3403
      last edited by

      @DustinB3403 That's fixed and be out for the 4.12, Friday (or at worst Monday).

      If you like to be cutting edge, switch to "next-release" branch on both xo-web and xo-server. It's already in there.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        @olivier Awesome.

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        • olivierO
          olivier
          last edited by

          Oh and final thing about this AMA-ish stuff: the goal wasn't to complain about EU investors and giving them all the blame, but just to give a picture of the situation, explaining things. Have a nice day lads 🙂

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @olivier
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            @olivier said:

            Oh and final thing about this AMA-ish stuff: the goal wasn't to complain about EU investors and giving them all the blame, but just to give a picture of the situation, explaining things. Have a nice day lads 🙂

            Don't leave us for the day

            There is so much more we could ask you!

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            • olivierO
              olivier @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 Go ahead, I'll answer when I can 😉

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                Well this is one question that has kind of nagged me, how do you protect the Xen Orchestra VM?

                You can't back it up, using it's self.

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                • olivierO
                  olivier @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 You can backup it if you want ^^ Exporting the backup on a NFS remote share, then if it crashes, re-import a new XOA, connect to the NFS share and reimport it. Tadaaa 😄

                  No problem to export a running VM, so no problem to export "itself".

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                  • olivierO
                    olivier
                    last edited by olivier

                    And very soon, you'll have the "continuous VM replication" allowing you to protect XOA itself too, with a minimal downtime.

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                    • olivierO
                      olivier
                      last edited by

                      BTW, I made very interesting tests with ZFS on Linux + XOA delta backups.

                      Using LZ4 compression is very impressive. Maybe one day integrate the LZ4 compression on the fly into xo-server.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said:

                        Well this is one question that has kind of nagged me, how do you protect the Xen Orchestra VM?

                        You can't back it up, using it's self.

                        You could run it in a container like me and then just clone the container and export it.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          What I was planning on doing what at the hypervisor level.

                          Since I'm running on Xen, I was going to use NAUBackup to simply export a full on a weekly schedule....

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates
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                            @olivier I have a quick question. So I ran an incremental backup. I got the green terminated sign, but there was still a snapshot of the VM left. Does XO need the snapshot to restore the deltas from?

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                            • olivierO
                              olivier @stacksofplates
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                              @johnhooks The only thing needed is a VDI named "XO_DELTA" something like that (visible in the SR view, in the VDI list).

                              And it's only needed to create delta. You don't need anything to import a backup, you can doing on a freshly installed XenServer (that's the point of a backup: to be useful in case you lost everything)

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @olivier
                                last edited by

                                @olivier said:

                                @johnhooks The only thing needed is a VDI named "XO_DELTA" something like that (visible in the SR view, in the VDI list).

                                And it's only needed to create delta. You don't need anything to import a backup, you can doing on a freshly installed XenServer (that's the point of a backup: to be useful in case you lost everything)

                                Ok ya that's what I saw. It showed it as a snapshot but called XO_DELTA something or other. It didn't delete after the job ran so I didn't know if I needed to keep it or not. Thanks!

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                                • olivierO
                                  olivier @stacksofplates
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                                  @johnhooks It stays until the next backup: then it's removed and replaced just after by a new delta snapshot. That's because a delta is always created by making a difference between 2 references (the current VM disk and a snapshot).

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    So @olivier is my system not working correctly then?

                                    I have no Snapshots of the VM I've been testing the Delta functionality with, nor do I have any additional vdisk.

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                                    • olivierO
                                      olivier @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 Hmm. You should have a VDI snapshot somewhere in your SR view (that's not visible inside the VM view, only on the SR one)

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates
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                                        I just ran a test Delta Backup and here's the disk

                                        0_1452537816861_Screenshot 2016-01-11 at 1.42.29 PM.png

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          You mean in the target repository correct?

                                          Which I have 0_1452537852062_XenCenter_2016-01-11_13-44-04.png

                                          So I do have a VDI in there, but nothing shows within XC.

                                          Which is what I thought you meant (and @johnhooks)

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                                          • olivierO
                                            olivier @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by olivier

                                            @DustinB3403 No inside the SR (the XenServer SR)

                                            edit: the SR where reside your VM disks

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