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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @Alex Sage
      last edited by

      @anonymous said:

      @olivier you know your business better then anyone here, but I am wondering if you ever considered something like the XenServer model? Everything is free, support cost money?

      Everything is free....

      There are even VM's you can download from people in this community for a fully working solution...

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @olivier
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        @olivier said:

        @anonymous Nobody will pay just for support.

        Good ones sure do. It's the little failing ones that don't. They aren't a good market to target because... failing and small 🙂

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @olivier
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          @olivier said:

          @scottalanmiller We are not in US here. Investors don't believe in this. And a very few succeeded by doing that.

          Get better investors 🙂

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          • coliverC
            coliver @Alex Sage
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            @anonymous said:

            @coliver said:

            They are basically doing this now, or am I missing something? You can deploy the entirety of XO without paying a single penny. It is the pre-built appliance and support that will cost anything.

            I am staying appliance (at every level) free, and just change for support. Just like XenServer.

            XO is more akin to Xen and the Appliance is closer to XenServer. There are some functions in Xen that you need to dig into the XenServer CLI a bit to access (or use 3rd party addons).

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @olivier
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              @olivier said:

              @scottalanmiller We are not in US here. Investors don't believe in this. And a very few succeeded by doing that.

              OH, are you doing the startup mode where you are just heading to IPO and then selling and moving on? If those are the investors that you have, that would make sense. If they are in for the short term IPO and not the long term viability and profits, that would totally make sense.

              When I was in Norway they were complaining about how poor the investors were in Europe and how little they understood business.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @olivier
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                @olivier said:

                @scottalanmiller We are not in US here. Investors don't believe in this. And a very few succeeded by doing that.

                Basically you just said that your investors don't believe in making money. 🙂

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                • olivierO
                  olivier @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller Nope. But nobody here will bet a penny on you if you don't have any income in less than 1 year. Roughly, they understand Internet as a mean to sell shoes.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @olivier said:

                    @scottalanmiller We are not in US here. Investors don't believe in this. And a very few succeeded by doing that.

                    Basically you just said that your investors don't believe in making money. 🙂

                    I think what he said is he wouldn't have any investors if his company wasn't making money. Or at least a model to make money.

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                      Alex Sage
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                      Sorry @olivier didn't mean to start all of this 😞

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                      • olivierO
                        olivier @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 This.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver
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                          If I may ask @olivier where are you (and presumably your team) from?

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                          • olivierO
                            olivier @Alex Sage
                            last edited by

                            @anonymous no problem, it's interesting I assume (to understand from the "other side").

                            In an ideal world, I would like to give XOA for free to anyone. That's just not possible.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @olivier
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                              @olivier said:

                              @anonymous no problem, it's interesting I assume (to understand from the "other side").

                              In an ideal world, I would like to give XOA for free to anyone. That's just not possible.

                              It's possible but you and your team would be very thin... paper thin...

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @olivier
                                last edited by

                                @olivier said:

                                @anonymous no problem, it's interesting I assume (to understand from the "other side").

                                In an ideal world, I would like to give XOA for free to anyone. That's just not possible.

                                No paper to wipe with kind of thin....

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                                • olivierO
                                  olivier @coliver
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                                  @coliver Grenoble, France. We found a small team of investors that "helped us" last year, but that's really small amounts of money. But despite that, our growth is not bad, and we continue to focus on great features coming soon!

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @olivier
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                                    @olivier when can we expect that "Importing" feature to be released?

                                    I really want to test that bit out. 🙂

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @olivier
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                                      @olivier said:

                                      @coliver Grenoble, France. We found a small team of investors that "helped us" last year, but that's really small amounts of money. But despite that, our growth is not bad, and we continue to focus on great features coming soon!

                                      Cool, good to hear. Do you have a feature road map? Or is that something you guys try to keep quiet?

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                                      • olivierO
                                        olivier @coliver
                                        last edited by olivier

                                        @coliver Full transparency in our documentation: https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/roadmap.html

                                        edit: Forever Forward Incremental Backup is not displayed there, but it's for this month. Continuous replication too. And a first beta of our self service portal.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @olivier
                                          last edited by

                                          @olivier is it possible to setup an online demo of the full solution for people to trial?

                                          Obviously you'd need a platform for it, but it might further the customer base for XOA.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @olivier
                                            last edited by coliver

                                            @olivier said:

                                            @coliver Full transparency in our documentation: https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/roadmap.html

                                            edit: Forever Forward Incremental Backup is not displayed there, but it's for this month. Continuous replication too. And a first beta of our self service portal.

                                            Thanks! I'll have to give this a try when I get a chance. Not that I'll be able to pay :(.

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