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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      The market doesn't come down to Dell and Lenovo. To nearly all IT shops, Lenovo doesn't even exist (and never did, the recent events didn't affect them much as they were never a good vendor) and the big two were HPE (formally known as HP) and Dell. Those are the two big ones. Along with SuperMicro they pretty much represent the SMB market.

      Big shops needing mini computers and bigger use Oracle, IBM and Fujitsu too.

      Cisco exists and is a straggler but their products are poor, convoluted and not a good value, especially in the SMB so are normally ignored even though they are good enough to make the short list.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        If you don't want to talk to Dell, talk to HPE and SuperMicro. They will certainly have something that meets your needs.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @christophergault
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          @christophergault said:

          @scottalanmiller Damn, I still have allot to learn about all this...

          You're asking the questions to learn tho. We all had to start somewhere, hopefully you can learn from our mistakes!

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            Alex Sage @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            To nearly all IT shops, Lenovo doesn't even exist (and never did, the recent events didn't affect them much as they were never a good vendor)

            The company I work for has 5000+ Lenovo computers all over the world. There are great computers!

            The computers with malware were consumer laptops, and never would have effective us because we image our computers from a known good source.

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              christophergault @Alex Sage
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              @anonymous What servers do you use?

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @Alex Sage
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                @anonymous said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                To nearly all IT shops, Lenovo doesn't even exist (and never did, the recent events didn't affect them much as they were never a good vendor)

                The company I work for has 5000+ Lenovo computers all over the world. There are great computers!

                The computers with malware were consumer laptops, and never would have effective us because we image our computers from a known good source.

                They were located in the BIOS so an image would have no affect. The BIOS loaded the drivers even if you reimaged.

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                  Alex Sage @christophergault
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                  @christophergault Dell for now.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                    @anonymous said:

                    The computers with malware were consumer laptops, and never would have effective us because we image our computers from a known good source.

                    That's the misconception. Lenovo added firmware to ensure that people thinking this would get caught to. How did you miss that? There is no means for an IT department to protect itself from a determined, enemy hardware vendor. Imaging could not stop their firmware issues.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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                      @anonymous said:

                      The computers that got caught with malware were consumer laptops

                      FTFY. There is no reason to think you are safe. Only that they were more careful.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                        @johnhooks said:

                        They were located in the BIOS so an image would have no affect. The BIOS loaded the drivers even if you reimaged.

                        Exactly. Security requires trust. There is no means to being reasonably secure and using Lenovo. The two simply can't go together.

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