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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      Here it is. https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/rolling_snapshots.html

      This is really what it sounds like and not backups at all. You could use it to build your own backup solution, but on its own it isn't one. It is just snapshots for version rollback locally.

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      • olivierO
        olivier
        last edited by olivier

        Guys,

        You should ping me or create GitHub issues when you have concerns, bug report or questions about XO 😉

        For the restore without knowing what's happening: I just updated this yesterday, now the VM is named "[Importing...] VMname" until the restore is completed. See https://github.com/vatesfr/xo-web/issues/641

        Already closed, so out for 4.12 around Jan 15 🙂

        About "Forever forward incremental backup", allowing you to avoid any full export after the initial one, it consists of:

        • merging offline (ie: without Xen, by ourselves) the original full backup with its contiguous snaphot
        • doing step each time, step by step

        So you never need to re-export the full stuff after the first time. A good illustration here, from VEEAM:

        This should be out in 4.13 (end of Jan.), 4.12 with some luck.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @olivier
          last edited by

          @olivier sorry Olivier we know you're busy, and I'm the defacto "XS Fan here...." so I play with a lot of the fun stuff and post some cool topics.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            LOL, just ask and ye shall receive.

            Awesome @olivier

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              Though a question to Scott's point - are vib files backup files or are they Xen image snaps?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                Though a question to Scott's point - are vib files backup files or are they Xen image snaps?

                Those are Veeam backups. He's just using their diagram. 🙂

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Though a question to Scott's point - are vib files backup files or are they Xen image snaps?

                  Those are Veeam backups. He's just using their diagram. 🙂

                  oh yeah /headslap, but the question still stands to your original point.

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Here it is. https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/rolling_snapshots.html

                  This is really what it sounds like and not backups at all. You could use it to build your own backup solution, but on its own it isn't one. It is just snapshots for version rollback locally.

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                  • olivierO
                    olivier
                    last edited by

                    Yes, that was just VEEAM diagrams 😉

                    The delta files *.vhd (if it's the original question) are just "blocks" diff between two disk "states": a "moving" disk (the current VM disk) and a snapshot (which is "frozen", like a photo, that's the definition of a snapshot).

                    To restore it properly, you need to be sure you "inject" the delta inside a coherent VM disk (if you apply delta on a different disk, it will be a mess. Even if you inject a delta on the "wrong" disk state, a mess too).

                    That's why we got JSON files to indicate the snapshot chain. We'll apply each delta to stay consistent.

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                    • olivierO
                      olivier @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 No worries 😉 But if you need an explanation on any XOA stuff, feel free to ping me. I'll come if I can 🙂

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver
                        last edited by

                        It is really nice to have one of the developers in the community! That cleared up a lot of confusion really quickly.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @olivier I'm glad you were changing the Import function of the backup so that there is some indication of when the import is complete.

                          That was an annoyance to say the least, having to wait for the vDisk to appear.

                          🙂

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                          • olivierO
                            olivier @coliver
                            last edited by olivier

                            @coliver Well, I'm not considering myself as a developer ^^ But I'm the original creator of the project (created back in 2009 and very old Xen version!) because I needed a web interface to manage my VMs, as a former Sysadmin 🙂

                            edit: I'm now the project leader, didn't leave it since then 😉

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                            • olivierO
                              olivier @DustinB3403
                              last edited by olivier

                              @DustinB3403 It was bothering me too ^^ But you know, I prefer to expose the feature first, despite it's not perfect. That's only by using something that you can improving it in the right way!

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @olivier
                                last edited by

                                @olivier said:

                                @DustinB3403 It was bothering me too ^^ But you know, I prefer to expose the feature first, despite it's not perfect. That's only by using something that you can improving it in the right way!

                                I'm happy you did provide that feature, even if it wasn't perfect. Totally worth it because it's an awesome feature!

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                                • olivierO
                                  olivier
                                  last edited by

                                  Happy to see it tested intensively 🙂

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