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    Xen Orchestra on Ubuntu 15.10 - Complete installation instructions

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    • DanpD
      Danp
      last edited by

      You could use xo-cli to make the backup or create a snapshot.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        Just so everyone is aware, this installation runs from an Active SSH Connection.

        I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to run at boot, without needing an Active Connection.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said:

          Just so everyone is aware, this installation runs from an Active SSH Connection.

          I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to run at boot, without needing an Active Connection.

          make a cron job with @restart for the "when to run" fields.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @travisdh1
            last edited by

            @travisdh1 Already tried it.

            Doesn't appear to work.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @DustinB3403 said:

              @Dashrender do you mean run XO from Xen directly?

              Rather than in it's own VM?

              No, run the scripts that update XO, and kick off the backup/snap/etc of XO from XC/Xen directly.

              But why?

              You can run a scheduled backup from within XO to backup your XO VM on any schedule you set. Once that completes run the xo-update.sh script and confirm all is functional.

              This would also allow you to take advantage of the Continuous delta capabilities. Rather than having to build a full every time you want to update.

              It would be much easier to set a backup to run weekly for just the XO VM, stop the services, run the update, reboot XO VM, and restart the services.

              The problem on relying on the delta from within XO is what if the update breaks XO? How do you now roll the delta back?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                @DustinB3403 said:

                @Dashrender said:

                @DustinB3403 said:

                @Dashrender do you mean run XO from Xen directly?

                Rather than in it's own VM?

                No, run the scripts that update XO, and kick off the backup/snap/etc of XO from XC/Xen directly.

                But why?

                You can run a scheduled backup from within XO to backup your XO VM on any schedule you set. Once that completes run the xo-update.sh script and confirm all is functional.

                This would also allow you to take advantage of the Continuous delta capabilities. Rather than having to build a full every time you want to update.

                It would be much easier to set a backup to run weekly for just the XO VM, stop the services, run the update, reboot XO VM, and restart the services.

                The problem on relying on the delta from within XO is what if the update breaks XO? How do you now roll the delta back?

                You don't backup to the XO vDisk you backup to a separate NFS target

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @DustinB3403 said:

                  @Dashrender do you mean run XO from Xen directly?

                  Rather than in it's own VM?

                  No, run the scripts that update XO, and kick off the backup/snap/etc of XO from XC/Xen directly.

                  But why?

                  You can run a scheduled backup from within XO to backup your XO VM on any schedule you set. Once that completes run the xo-update.sh script and confirm all is functional.

                  This would also allow you to take advantage of the Continuous delta capabilities. Rather than having to build a full every time you want to update.

                  It would be much easier to set a backup to run weekly for just the XO VM, stop the services, run the update, reboot XO VM, and restart the services.

                  The problem on relying on the delta from within XO is what if the update breaks XO? How do you now roll the delta back?

                  You don't backup to the XO vDisk you backup to a separate NFS target

                  Sure, but what does the restoration? it's XO, right? So if XO is broken you can't run the store, right?

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    You can export from the NFS Share using WinSCP and import directly into XenCenter if things are horribly broken.

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                    • DanpD
                      Danp @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said:

                      Already tried it.

                      Doesn't appear to work.

                      Post your cron entry here.

                      Also may want to review these options:
                      https://www.npmjs.com/package/node-crontab
                      https://www.npmjs.com/package/forever

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        Ok So here is what I've done to get XO to run at boot.

                        I made a script in /etc/ named "xo-start.sh" marked it as executable.

                        cd  /etc
                        nano xo-start.sh
                        
                        
                        #!/bin/sh
                        cd /opt/xo-server
                        sudo npm start
                        
                         ctrl+o
                         ctrl+x
                        
                        sudo nano /etc/crontab
                        
                        #
                         shit ton of comments
                        #
                        @reboot cd /etc && ./xo-start.sh
                        
                        ctrl+o
                        ctrl+x
                        
                        sudo reboot now
                        
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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          That should be all you need to get XO to run at startup of your XO VM.

                          I've reboot several times to confirm.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            So the last question is, how do we get XO to stop so we can manually run our updates.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              If you are firing up from cron, which is pretty normal for a low key service such as this, then you would kill it using the kill command.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Problem is, with processes that run via npm or similar, their name never appears and there is no universal standard for stopping them. Doing so manually is super simple, but in a script is dangerous and ill advised. If you are very brave you can use ps and look for npm, but if the server is running anything else, you might kill the wrong thing.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  And to complicate things, there is no stop script for xo-server 🙂

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Problem is, with processes that run via npm or similar, their name never appears and there is no universal standard for stopping them. Doing so manually is super simple, but in a script is dangerous and ill advised. If you are very brave you can use ps and look for npm, but if the server is running anything else, you might kill the wrong thing.

                                    Doesn't 'cd /install/location' 'npm stop' work? Why make it difficult?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                      last edited by

                                      @travisdh1 said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Problem is, with processes that run via npm or similar, their name never appears and there is no universal standard for stopping them. Doing so manually is super simple, but in a script is dangerous and ill advised. If you are very brave you can use ps and look for npm, but if the server is running anything else, you might kill the wrong thing.

                                      Doesn't 'cd /install/location' 'npm stop' work? Why make it difficult?

                                      No, there is no stop script.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @travisdh1
                                        last edited by

                                        @travisdh1 said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Problem is, with processes that run via npm or similar, their name never appears and there is no universal standard for stopping them. Doing so manually is super simple, but in a script is dangerous and ill advised. If you are very brave you can use ps and look for npm, but if the server is running anything else, you might kill the wrong thing.

                                        Doesn't 'cd /install/location' 'npm stop' work? Why make it difficult?

                                        from my testing npm stop does not work.

                                        It's not even included as a script.

                                        We would have to effectively Ctrl + C out of the crontab job.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          This will stop it, if you run it as expected and nothing else is running like it:

                                          kill $(ps aux | grep "npm start" | grep -v grep | cut -d' ' -f8)
                                          
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                                          • travisdh1T
                                            travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @travisdh1 said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Problem is, with processes that run via npm or similar, their name never appears and there is no universal standard for stopping them. Doing so manually is super simple, but in a script is dangerous and ill advised. If you are very brave you can use ps and look for npm, but if the server is running anything else, you might kill the wrong thing.

                                            Doesn't 'cd /install/location' 'npm stop' work? Why make it difficult?

                                            No, there is no stop script.

                                            Well, bother.

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