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    • C
      Carnival Boy
      last edited by

      It's not polling, we're sending an e-mail directly to Zoho's servers, which they then process.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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        @Carnival-Boy said:

        It's not polling, we're sending an e-mail directly to Zoho's servers, which they then process.

        They would be polling. While it is possible that they build an email server expressly for the purpose of their ticket system it is safe to assume that they did not. What all systems like this do is drop the email into a filesystem or database and then another system connects either directly or over IMAP and grabs the email every ten seconds or ten minutes or whatever. Same as how Spiceworks does it, for example. Polling is the only reasonable way to handle email in this manner.

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          Carnival Boy
          last edited by

          Sure. What I meant was it's not configured to poll our mail server. I can't see anywhere to set the polling interval, though surely it can't be set to 5 minutes or longer by default? I'd expect it to poll every few seconds.

          Why is polling the only reasonable way anyway? Why wouldn't a large cloud provider like Zoho use a more real time solution?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            I would not expect them to allow you to configure the polling on their end, if you could why would everyone not turn it all the way up, all of the time?

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              Carnival Boy
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              Good point!

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                stacksofplates @Carnival Boy
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                @Carnival-Boy said:

                Sure. What I meant was it's not configured to poll our mail server. I can't see anywhere to set the polling interval, though surely it can't be set to 5 minutes or longer by default? I'd expect it to poll every few seconds.

                Why is polling the only reasonable way anyway? Why wouldn't a large cloud provider like Zoho use a more real time solution?

                I wonder if it's faster if you use their email service?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                  last edited by

                  @johnhooks said:

                  @Carnival-Boy said:

                  Sure. What I meant was it's not configured to poll our mail server. I can't see anywhere to set the polling interval, though surely it can't be set to 5 minutes or longer by default? I'd expect it to poll every few seconds.

                  Why is polling the only reasonable way anyway? Why wouldn't a large cloud provider like Zoho use a more real time solution?

                  I wonder if it's faster if you use their email service?

                  One would assume that THEY are using their email service and from the sounds of it, it sucks. This would make me wary of using it. Twenty minute delays on email delivery is not fun in this day and age.

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                  • KellyK
                    Kelly
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                    So apparently ManageEngine ServiceDesk can run on Linux: https://www.manageengine.com/products/service-desk/help/adminguide/introduction/installation-linux.html. I may have to spin this up and see if I can retire Jira.
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                      scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                      @Kelly said:

                      So apparently ManageEngine ServiceDesk can run on Linux: https://www.manageengine.com/products/service-desk/help/adminguide/introduction/installation-linux.html. I may have to

                      Only place any of us have ever run it 😉

                      But then again, the hosted version is free, so why run your own?

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                      • KellyK
                        Kelly @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Kelly said:

                        So apparently ManageEngine ServiceDesk can run on Linux: https://www.manageengine.com/products/service-desk/help/adminguide/introduction/installation-linux.html. I may have to

                        Only place any of us have ever run it 😉

                        But then again, the hosted version is free, so why run your own?

                        Compliance issues. ITAR makes anything hosted difficult.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Kelly
                          last edited by

                          @Kelly said:

                          ITAR makes anything hosted security difficult.

                          FTFY

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                          • KellyK
                            Kelly
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @Kelly said:

                            ITAR makes anything hosted security difficult.

                            FTFY

                            Yes, it makes everything harder, but makes hosted things, at best, hard; typically infeasible.

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                              Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by Jason

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Kelly said:

                              So apparently ManageEngine ServiceDesk can run on Linux: https://www.manageengine.com/products/service-desk/help/adminguide/introduction/installation-linux.html. I may have to

                              Only place any of us have ever run it 😉

                              But then again, the hosted version is free*, so why run your own?

                              *with limitations. We host our own.

                              It's also only the Helpdesk module. Service Desk plus includes many other modules.

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                                Deleted74295 Banned
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                                @Carnival-Boy give Fresh Desk a try if you are looking for a ticketing system.

                                https://freshdesk.com/

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                                  Carnival Boy
                                  last edited by

                                  Do you use it? I've signed up.

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                                  • C
                                    Carnival Boy
                                    last edited by

                                    They have 2 products and I'm confused as to which one I should use:
                                    Freshdesk - Customer Support Software
                                    Freshservice - Internal IT Helpdesk

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                                    • Deleted74295D
                                      Deleted74295 Banned @Carnival Boy
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                                      @Carnival-Boy said:

                                      They have 2 products and I'm confused as to which one I should use:
                                      Freshdesk - Customer Support Software
                                      Freshservice - Internal IT Helpdesk

                                      FreshDesk - Is just a ticking system. That is all it is

                                      FreshService, you can do much much more but the price is higher.

                                      I do use it 🙂

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                                        Carnival Boy
                                        last edited by

                                        Ah yes, I see. Both are free for 3 agents but the price is a lot more for Freshservice after that. I'll stick with looking at Freshdesk.

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                                          Carnival Boy
                                          last edited by

                                          I got a reply from Zoho. "The usual delay in email fetching should be around 1-3 minutes. If you are consistently facing higher delay times in email fetching. Please send the respective email headers and ticket ID details to support"

                                          To be honest, 3 minutes is too long for me. FreshDesk is a few seconds. I prefer to do support via e-mail rather than a browser portal so maybe that's why it's a big issue for me but not others.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill
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                                            I went to the FreshDesk website last night, for about 3 seconds.

                                            They have been all over my everything today, LOL.

                                            Even saw an full video ad before I went into Google Play Music.

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