Mac Mini as OSX Server + GlobalSan iSCSI
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@ntoxicator said:
I need to look into it from a management perspective though within a Domain network.. That will be fun. As I'm not a big fan of Windows 2012 server either - due to the theme. But over time you get use to it... I'm just 'old school' type of guy I suppose. Granted, I'm not though.
Install Server Core and do everything from Powershell. Then you won't have to worry about the theme.
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@ntoxicator said:
I need to look into it from a management perspective though within a Domain network.. That will be fun. As I'm not a big fan of Windows 2012 server either - due to the theme. But over time you get use to it... I'm just 'old school' type of guy I suppose. Granted, I'm not though.
In theory you should never see the theme of a server.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ntoxicator said:
I need to look into it from a management perspective though within a Domain network.. That will be fun. As I'm not a big fan of Windows 2012 server either - due to the theme. But over time you get use to it... I'm just 'old school' type of guy I suppose. Granted, I'm not though.
In theory you should never see the theme of a server.
RSAT from Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 - problem solved
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@coliver said:
Core and do everything from Pow
Id rather use linux shell than PowerShell. I cannot wrap my head around the syntax. I'm lazy I suppose.
People rave oohhh ahhhh Powershell!! and rolling my eyes. Every time I used PowerShell and the syntax i wanted to drive my fist through the monitor.
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@ntoxicator said:
@coliver said:
Core and do everything from Pow
Id rather use linux shell than PowerShell. I cannot wrap my head around the syntax. I'm lazy I suppose.
People rave oohhh ahhhh Powershell!! and rolling my eyes. Every time I used PowerShell and the syntax i wanted to drive my fist through the monitor.
It takes a bit to get used to sure. But it is a vast improvement over the dos shell/command prompt. Bash and *nix commands still make the most sense to me as well but Powershell is what Windows offers.
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@ntoxicator said:
@coliver said:
Core and do everything from Pow
Id rather use linux shell than PowerShell. I cannot wrap my head around the syntax. I'm lazy I suppose.
People rave oohhh ahhhh Powershell!! and rolling my eyes. Every time I used PowerShell and the syntax i wanted to drive my fist through the monitor.
I'm the same way. BASH is text based, PowerShell is object based and requires all kinds of special knowledge and just looking at the output doesn't tell you what you need. It's super powerful but not user friendly at all unless you work with it constantly.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ntoxicator said:
I need to look into it from a management perspective though within a Domain network.. That will be fun. As I'm not a big fan of Windows 2012 server either - due to the theme. But over time you get use to it... I'm just 'old school' type of guy I suppose. Granted, I'm not though.
In theory you should never see the theme of a server.
RSAT from Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 - problem solved
Plus the server manager, too.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ntoxicator said:
I need to look into it from a management perspective though within a Domain network.. That will be fun. As I'm not a big fan of Windows 2012 server either - due to the theme. But over time you get use to it... I'm just 'old school' type of guy I suppose. Granted, I'm not though.
In theory you should never see the theme of a server.
RSAT from Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 - problem solved
Plus the server manager, too.
Is server manager something different from RSAT?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ntoxicator said:
I need to look into it from a management perspective though within a Domain network.. That will be fun. As I'm not a big fan of Windows 2012 server either - due to the theme. But over time you get use to it... I'm just 'old school' type of guy I suppose. Granted, I'm not though.
In theory you should never see the theme of a server.
RSAT from Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 - problem solved
Plus the server manager, too.
Is server manager something different from RSAT?
Yes.
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so..
Promise Pegasus R4 disk array
VS
DROBO D5 unit?
Both thunderbolt devices
What about user management on mac and the network... I dont really see any Linux server options avail? Unless can integrate OSX machines into a Linux server Active Directory server (zentyal or similar)
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@ntoxicator said:
What about user management on mac and the network... I dont really see any Linux server options avail? Unless can integrate OSX machines into a Linux server Active Directory server (zentyal or similar)
Mac can join either AD or normal LDAP. Linux can do AD but you would not normally unless you have Windows machines. So you'd normally just use LDAP. Linux can work in any mode here.
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@ntoxicator said:
so..
Promise Pegasus R4 disk array
VS
DROBO D5 unit?
Both thunderbolt devices
Don't even look at Promise, this is not business gear at all. That R4 unit is a perfect example. R6 is your only option on a four bay unit? That's insane.
The Drobo D5 is an entry level device but it is business class. And it is five bays, where R6 makes sense. And it does SSD tiering. Huge deal.
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Gotcha.. Yah I seen that the Promise was not nearly Business level.
the drobo though i question of how business level it is. But SSD caching option is a huge plus! This be much simpler storage solution
only hiccup would be pulling down their current dropbox data to this drive. This would take installing DB software locally and then point the storage to a Volume on the drobo.
I need to read documentation. If the Drobo can do different volumes on the RAID array. Then Im sold. Otherwise, I have to lean to the Synology NAS unit as it is more universal.
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@ntoxicator said:
the drobo though i question of how business level it is. But SSD caching option is a huge plus! This be much simpler storage solution
Entry Business Level, I would classify it. I've worked with them for years and certainly they are niche products but they have good products for their niche and we've had excellent support experiences. You have to know the product and what you are getting and need their specific offering, but for what they are they are generally quite good. Certainly entry level, no question there.
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@ntoxicator said:
I need to read documentation. If the Drobo can do different volumes on the RAID array. Then Im sold. Otherwise, I have to lean to the Synology NAS unit as it is more universal.
I don't have a 5D to test here, but our B800i certainly can make all of the volumes / LUNs that you want and does thin provisioning on them.
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Cool, thank you scott!
per Drobo documentation. You can create multiple Volumes on the Raid array. However, once the volume(s) are created. You cannot delete just one(1) of them. Documentation states, if you need to remote one of the Volumes. The entire unit has to be formatted and start over.
Nearly non issue. Although, then I question how you can Expand or a Volume previously created or shift space around.
The larger Drobo 8000 rack unit looks sweet. Be cool if that supported thunderbolt add-on PCI-e card.
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@ntoxicator said:
The larger Drobo 8000 rack unit looks sweet. Be cool if that supported thunderbolt add-on PCI-e card.
The B800 is not that fast, the TB add on wouldn't do much.
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@ntoxicator said:
Nearly non issue. Although, then I question how you can Expand or a Volume previously created or shift space around.
Don't need to on the B800i and B1200i, at least, due to thin provisioning. Just make it big from the beginning.
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It's been five days, following up to see how this project or planning are going.
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probably going with Drobo unit with 5 drives + mSata SSD drive for SSD Caching. As would be just straight TB connection and drive volume(s) be attached.
Waiting to finalize their network setup and their new office build-out prior to moving forward.
