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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      I wonder - if Linux ever became as popular on the desktop, would programs end up making Linux as "unstable" as Windows is?

      Personal opinion - Windows XP and Windows 7 where awesome OSes, pretty fast and very stable, on their own! It was normally the apps that had issues, or caused the OS to have issues.

      Do we really expect anything different if another OS takes over as the leader?

      I just look at Android and already know the same exists there.

      iPhone and iPads seem to be better - though I know they still aren't perfect. And with some other recently publicized news about how little separation between apps really exists in iDevices I suspect that their stability will go down hill as more bad apps make their way into the store.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        I wonder - if Linux ever became as popular on the desktop, would programs end up making Linux as "unstable" as Windows is?

        I don't think so. I think that it would get worse but not a bad. Just a gut feeling, mind you. But there are several reasons for thinking so. One is the design architecture, Linux just handles bad software more gracefully IMHO - even a clean new install of Windows I have stability issues I never see on any Linux desktop, for example. Also the culture of the design would likely stay with the managed "app store" design and trusted repos and integrated patch management and other aspects that make Linux, iOS and other more heavily overseen platforms more stable.

        But one of the biggest issues is the history and toolsets. A ton of the stability issues in Windows come from legacy support issues that simply do not exist in Linux. The Windows mentality of having to tell applications that it is an old version of Windows, having to install all kinds of weird packages to get things to work, manually handling dependencies - that's so far from the Linux mentality that I find it very unlikely that those issues would creep into the Linux ecosystem.

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        • scottalanmillerS
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          Also Linux doesn't have the weird crippling by license that Windows has. In Linux you are free to design and use it however it makes sense. As a terminal server, with VMs, with containers - you just do the "right thing" instad of " the thing you are licensed to do."

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          • DashrenderD
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            I agree - I would kind of really like to see Microsoft pull an Apple - start over! Old apps won't work in the base OS. Someone, even microsoft, could make an emulator I suppose, but really I don't even want that.

            I want to see them ditch the legacy. it's the only way to force the issue to become more secure!

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              I agree - I would kind of really like to see Microsoft pull an Apple - start over! Old apps won't work in the base OS. Someone, even microsoft, could make an emulator I suppose, but really I don't even want that.

              I want to see them ditch the legacy. it's the only way to force the issue to become more secure!

              When Apple did this, they gave the developers plenty of time to start making and fixing their apps to work with the new OS X architectures.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                @dafyre Took a long time. It was a rocky road.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @dafyre Took a long time. It was a rocky road.

                  Definitely. But the end results were worth it, IMO.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                    @dafyre I don't know, they might have been better off without a lot of those apps 😉

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @dafyre I don't know, they might have been better off without a lot of those apps 😉

                      Maybe... Before OS X (MacOS 8 and 9 / PPC days) , I wouldn't use Mac for my daily driver. (Cost was still an issue then, and I hated the way OS 8 and 9 worked)... Now, however, give me a PC or a Mac... I don't really care. The apps I need to make the computer work the way I want it to work are there.

                      But then again, Windows would be better off without a few (well... many) apps too... 🙂

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                      • scottalanmillerS
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                        In many ways that is where Linux shines.... fewer apps.

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