Windows Server 2016 Licensing Info
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@Jason said:
wonder why it's 16 cores min per server. I imagine that will suck for some SMBs.
No different than the old two sockets minimum. Basically they've just renamed "socket" to "8 cores". So as long as you are at 8 cores per CPU or fewer today, you are not affected compared to the amount that you were affected previously. If you have any more cores, you suddenly pay more without getting more.
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@brianlittlejohn said:
@scottalanmiller I read somewhere(not microsoft so might not be true) That the base DC license will be $6100 and include 2 processors of 8-cores each. Didnt say anything about the 2 core addder licenses.
Cool. That's a little lower, but not much for a massive decrease in functionality considering even servers that people might buy for home could easily be much larger than that.
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I'd say that's typical Microsoft. One step forward, 20 backwards...
They did a great job simplifying licensing in 2012 and bringing the same feature set in both editions, and now this. I have 2x12 core Opterons in my servers, there's no way I'm upgrading to 2016. -
@marcinozga Same issues here. Anyone with AMD procs is screwed here.
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Wow... this licensing is going to be a mess.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Is there any way to limit how many cores a system can use in Windows?
Yes, of course, but it is unlikely that limited the cores used will be considered in licensing just as turning off CPUs was not an option before either.
Apparently you can disable a proc and not be charged, but the cores won't matter.
" However, disabling hyper threading or disabling
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@johnhooks said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@johnhooks said:
Is there any way to limit how many cores a system can use in Windows?
Yes, of course, but it is unlikely that limited the cores used will be considered in licensing just as turning off CPUs was not an option before either.
Apparently you can disable a proc and not be charged, but the cores won't matter.
" However, disabling hyper threading or disabling
cores for specific programs does not relieve the need for a Windows Server license on the physical cores."HT would not affect it as HT are not physical cores but only logical thread engines. And disabling a core for a PROGRAM would not be expected to matter since it is the OS, not the apps, for which there is licensing.
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I was a little nervous with my new server I just bought, but it's only 6C.
A win for SOHO, LOL.
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@BRRABill said:
I was a little nervous with my new server I just bought, but it's only 6C.
A win for SOHO, LOL.
But you will pay for licensing 16, regardless.
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The only winners here are the Linux shops.
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Licensing cores is roughly the same as licensing GHz. You can do it, but it is going to hamper processor development and change what people buy and how things are done.
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@scottalanmiller said:
But you will pay for licensing 16, regardless.
I don't understand why?
"Licenses for servers with 8 cores or less per proc will be same price as the 2012 R2 two-proc
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
But you will pay for licensing 16, regardless.
I don't understand why?
"Licenses for servers with 8 cores or less per proc will be same price as the 2012 R2 two-proc
license price."Because 16 is the smallest you can buy. You just quoted the 16 core minimum.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Because 16 is the smallest you can buy. You just quoted the 16 core minimum.
But the price for "paying for 16" is going to the the same pricne I am paying today, right?
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@BRRABill From What i read it will be, but that is not official from microsoft yet.
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The above link seems to be a MS document, and they say a few times in there the pricing will be the same.
Not saying it isn't going to affect larger shops, but just saying for a smaller business with 1 server, it might not be a big change.
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@BRRABill said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Because 16 is the smallest you can buy. You just quoted the 16 core minimum.
But the price for "paying for 16" is going to the the same pricne I am paying today, right?
Right, so the minimum that you can buy is 16. So your price is the same as the 16 price, because 16 is the smallest option.
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@brianlittlejohn said:
@BRRABill From What i read it will be, but that is not official from microsoft yet.
That's official MS documentation.
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@scottalanmiller I missed the part on pricing in it, i read a price elsewhere on the internet
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@BRRABill said:
Not saying it isn't going to affect larger shops, but just saying for a smaller business with 1 server, it might not be a big change.
It's the small shops getting hit. Those that bought even tiny AMD CPUs have to pay extra. Those that got single procs with more cores rather than two with fewer are hit. Those that consolidated into a single chassis get hit. It goes on and on. People made core decisions based on factors that have changed.
