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    Sharepoint - how do you use it?

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      Carnival Boy
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      Thanks. I'm about to start my Sharepoint journey. It's exciting, but scary, as I have absolutely no idea what I am doing. Sharepoint is such a difficult application to describe. I think the biggest challenge is to know when Sharepoint is the appropriate solution for a business problem, and when it isn't. For example, to what degree should Sharepoint replace a file server? Some files are better on Sharepoint, some are better on a file server - but how to decide which is which? To what degree should we integrate our CRM, ERP, ECM, and field service tracking applications into Sharepoint? How do we encourage users to engage with Sharepoint? I guess it's going to be a case of having to suck it and see.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Get some books that talk not just about Sharepoint from a technical perspective but also about data theory and how Sharepoint can be used. MSPress has a few.

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          Carnival Boy
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          Can anyone recommend any good Sharepoint books? I'm currently half way through Sam's Learn Sharepoint in 24 hours and I'll only give it a 3/5. I'm really bored of studying it.

          Also, am I right in saying OneDrive for Business is Sharepoint? And that being the case, will Microsoft drop the Sharepoint name in the near future and we'll just have OneDrive? OneDrive implies file management and Sharepoint implies websites, so I'm a little confused about their direction.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Carnival Boy
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            @Carnival-Boy said:

            Can anyone recommend any good Sharepoint books? I'm currently half way through Sam's Learn Sharepoint in 24 hours and I'll only give it a 3/5. I'm really bored of studying it.

            Also, am I right in saying OneDrive for Business is Sharepoint? And that being the case, will Microsoft drop the Sharepoint name in the near future and we'll just have OneDrive? OneDrive implies file management and Sharepoint implies websites, so I'm a little confused about their direction.

            You get a sharepoint site as part of most Office 365 subscriptions. You may choose to sync part (or all) of that sharepoint site as a library on your desktop and the sync process uses groove.exe (OneDrive for Business), but it is NOT OneDrive.

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              Carnival Boy
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              OK. I just read this article http://www.fiftyfiveandfive.com/sharepoint/onedrive-business-not-onedrive/ and got kinda confused about the differences.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
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                @Carnival-Boy said:

                OK. I just read this article http://www.fiftyfiveandfive.com/sharepoint/onedrive-business-not-onedrive/ and got kinda confused about the differences.

                Well OneDrive and OneDrive for Business are not the same thing either. They accomplish the same task, but are different products.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                  @Carnival-Boy MSPress has several good titles on Sharepoint. Just go to their site and search on Sharepoint 2013. They have all different levels from high level for end users to the certification paths.

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                    technobabble
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                    On my W8.1. update 1 I have both OneDrive for Business and OneDrive on my PC. I believe the OneDrive for Business has replaced the SharePoint connection.
                    onedrive and onedrive for business.PNG

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @technobabble
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                      @technobabble correct. ODfB is Sharepoint sync. OD is a separate MS hosted service.

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                      • Reid CooperR
                        Reid Cooper
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                        SharePoint is amazing but loaded with almost overwhelming numbers of features. You can use it in so many ways. And then comes running custom code on top of it. Then it really gets intense.

                        SharePoint in the last few versions has really started to address file server needs and can covet many aspects of traditional file serving.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @technobabble correct. ODfB is Sharepoint sync. OD is a separate MS hosted service.

                          More specifically, you now have a personal OneDrive and a Business OneDrive (that is part of your sharepoint site, but personal, note the URL).
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                          The business one drive will also sync to the actual sharepoint site's documents space that is included with Office 365. You have to manually set that up if you use chrome (well the version of chrome i had 6 months ago). If you use IE it should do it automagic.
                          If you click Sync it will create a "SharePoint" library in your favorites in addition to the OneDrive for Business.

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                          • Reid CooperR
                            Reid Cooper
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                            OneDrive is brilliant. Been using it a bit lately and it works quite well. I use the personal one as much as the business one.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Yeah, we have moved to OneDrive for a ton of stuff that we do now too. That is, One Drive for Business. That it is coming right from our own SharePoint server really makes it a no-brainer. It has been working great for us.

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                                technobabble
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                                My next goal in ODfB is to set permissions on OneNote so that users can't edit notes. (would rather have pending edits that have to be approved)

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                                  Carnival Boy @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  For example, we make one "site" for each division: HR, management, general "whole" company, IT, Software Engineering, Client Services, etc. About seven or eight of them. Each has the same basics but with slight variations depending on need. Some are globally visible (IT and CS are available to all staff to see, SE only to the development team to keep things tidy for other people, management only to executives, etc.) People without access to a site literally don't even know that it exists, its tabs in the menus vanish so they don't even know that they are missing anything.

                                  I'm about to create my first sites (gulp).

                                  HR. I don't know whether to have one or two HR sites. Two sites would be a whole company one, where, for example, we'd keep Employee Manuals. And a private, departmental one, where HR would keep confidential internal documents. I don't know if it's better to have one HR site and use permissions to control access.

                                  Project sites. We have a Lean Manufacturing Team - with cross-departmental team members working on various projects related to the company's commitment to becoming a lean organisation. I don't know whether to have one site containing all the projects the team will be working on, or to create multiple project sites - one for each project that the team embarks on. The latter could get out of hand, as there are likely to be multiple projects being worked on simultaneously. But a single site could get confusing and cause the team to lose focus.

                                  You can problem tell from the above that I'm a complete newbie to all this!

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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                                    @Carnival-Boy For HR, in a case like that, I might lean towards two sites. That way you have the extra peace of mind that one is clearing for sharing and one is clearly now.

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                                      alexntg @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Carnival-Boy For HR, in a case like that, I might lean towards two sites. That way you have the extra peace of mind that one is clearing for sharing and one is clearly now.

                                      Is clearing for sharing anything like map finding behinding?

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                                        Carnival Boy
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                                        Trying to decipher @scottalanmiller's iphone auto-correct fails is one of the most fun things to do on ML.

                                        I'm sure you're right about a private HR site and a public one.

                                        What about the project sites? I'm not convinced Sharepoint is even the right tool for project management but I'm determined to give it a go.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          SP is pretty good for project stuff. Great place to collect project documents and artifacts. It can replicate a lot of MS Project and is the basis for Project Server.

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                                            Carnival Boy
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                                            At the moment we use a file share and mostly Excel spreadsheets to record tasks., notes and actions. The only advantage to this approach is its simplicity and the fact that everyone loves files shares and Excel.

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