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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      So, armed with my fledgling knowledge of Microsoft licensing, I reached out to our software vendor today, who confused me again.

      I'd like to start a thread here of what I know, piece, by piece. If it is correct, I will move on. If it is not, we'll correct and adjust.

      BASE KNOWLEDGE:
      An OS (whether desktop or server) can only be licensed in two ways. OEM or retail, which is known as FPP.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
        last edited by

        @BRRABill said:

        BASE KNOWLEDGE:
        An OS (whether desktop or server) can only be licensed in two ways. OEM or retail, which is known as FPP.

        That is correct. The base install must be one of these two options.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          OK, good. Because my rep said to stop saying "volume licensing" and only say "licensing" because that is what we would be purchasing.

          So, there can you buy licenses through "volume licensing"?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
            last edited by

            @BRRABill said:

            So, there can you buy licenses through "volume licensing"?

            where?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @BRRABill said:

              BASE KNOWLEDGE:
              An OS (whether desktop or server) can only be licensed in two ways. OEM or retail, which is known as FPP.

              That is correct. The base install must be one of these two options.

              This isn't right - Volume Licensing is a third option.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                This isn't right - Volume Licensing is a third option.

                Sorry, missed server. For DESKTOP there is only one option. Argh, why do these keep getting combined?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill said:

                  An OS (whether desktop or server)

                  Never discuss these two together. They have no relationship and ANY attempt to mix them will lead to confusion. There is no reason to ever discuss their licensing together. They are different in every way and no knowledge of one will assist you in the other. Microsoft makes desktops and servers totally discrete, treat them that way. This has been causing your issues since the first post because you were applying server thinking to desktop systems and it continues to plague you. Ask the same questions, but always ask them about each individually and don't combine them in any fashion.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    For DESKTOP there is only one option.

                    Actually there are two, OEM and FPP.

                    But for servers there are three, OEM, FPP and Volume/Open Licensing.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      For DESKTOP there is only one option.

                      Actually there are two, OEM and FPP.

                      I meant ONE as in "direct purchase" rather than volume 🙂

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        For DESKTOP there is only one option.

                        Actually there are two, OEM and FPP.

                        But for servers there are three, OEM, FPP and Volume/Open Licensing.

                        Can't you get Windows Desktop OS's through a volume license agreement?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @coliver
                          last edited by scottalanmiller

                          @coliver said:

                          Can't you get Windows Desktop OS's through a volume license agreement?

                          No

                          You can get VL ugprades, but no base desktop OSes.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            Now to really add confusion to the mix... you can purchase Software Assurance AND Upgrades to Desktop OSes through Volume/Open Licensing, but the base license itself can not be purchased through Volume/Open Licensing (though I think huge companies can purchase desktop OSes through Enterprise Agreement (EA), which would technically be another way to acquire Desktop OS Licenses).

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              For DESKTOP there is only one option.

                              Actually there are two, OEM and FPP.

                              But for servers there are three, OEM, FPP and Volume/Open Licensing.

                              Can't you get Windows Desktop OS's through a volume license agreement?

                              nope, only SA and upgrades.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @coliver said:

                                Can't you get Windows Desktop OS's through a volume license agreement?

                                No

                                You can get VL ugprades, but no base desktop OSes.

                                That's right thanks for correcting me.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Argh, why do these keep getting combined?

                                  a) i like creating havoc
                                  b) i am so learning

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Here is the really high level view. Until you get into very special cases you basically:

                                    • Always get your desktop OS as OEM with the machine when you buy it. You don't buy desktop OSes.
                                    • Always get your server OS from VL.
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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      So to refine this before moving on.

                                      DESKTOP: you can only obtain a license through OEM or FPP

                                      SERVER: you can obtain a license through OEM, FPP, or VL

                                      Is that correctly separated, and correct?

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Here is the really high level view. Until you get into very special cases you basically:

                                        • Always get your desktop OS as OEM with the machine when you buy it. You don't buy desktop OSes.
                                        • Always get your server OS from VL.

                                        DESKTOP: When would you ever need to purchase a FPP? If you wanted to install another OS on a desktop that didn't already have that? For example if you licenses Vista on a machine, but wanted to wipe it and install Windows 10?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          So to refine this before moving on.

                                          DESKTOP: you can only obtain a license through OEM or FPP

                                          SERVER: you can obtain a license through OEM, FPP, or VL

                                          Is that correctly separated, and correct?

                                          Correct.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said:

                                            DESKTOP: When would you ever need to purchase a FPP? If you wanted to install another OS on a desktop that didn't already have that?

                                            When you have a machine that has no OEM license and you are willing to pay the premium for FPP to get the flexibility that it can provide. FPP is super rare.

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