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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      What are the prices?

      Standard is about $830 and DC is about $5820?

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      • brianlittlejohnB
        brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller Something like that... I think I got my Standards for $750...

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          That makes sense, that would be the 14 number. So if you know you can do 13, standard. But if you hit 14, DC for sure.

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          • brianlittlejohnB
            brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller I would say if you get to 10vms, it is worth the extra price. For the flexibility of adding a vm whenever needed.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              I would generally agree, but ignoring flexibility and soft benefits, the inflection point appears to currently be between 13 and 14 VMs per host.

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              • brianlittlejohnB
                brianlittlejohn
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                It would actually be 12, if you have 13 you have to buy the licenses for 14

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                  It would actually be 12, if you have 13 you have to buy the licenses for 14

                  Duh, of course. Late on a Friday, needing some beer here, I guess.

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                  • brianlittlejohnB
                    brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller Thats what I'm about to do, either craft beer or wine. My friends are having a make you own pasta night... so im leaning towards wine unless I see a beer I cant do without.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      I've got a single beer left in the fridge. Doubt that I am going to walk to the store for more, though.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
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                        I have an almost full bottle of sake to tide me over tonight.

                        First snow is about to arrive in Chicagoland. The kids are excited.

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                        • brianlittlejohnB
                          brianlittlejohn
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                          Went to the store and ended up with wine and beer...

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            I should probably do that. I think that we've lost track of this thread now.

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                            • DashrenderD
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                              That 12 VMs isn't just 12 on a single host for normal operations - if the plan is to move VMs around for failover, you're down to a max of 6 on each server before buying DC makes sense.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                That 12 VMs isn't just 12 on a single host for normal operations - if the plan is to move VMs around for failover, you're down to a max of 6 on each server before buying DC makes sense.

                                Correct you are. IF you have DR needs, the numbers change a lot.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
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                                  Yeah take that beer talk elsewhere, LOL.

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                                  • brianlittlejohnB
                                    brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    That 12 VMs isn't just 12 on a single host for normal operations - if the plan is to move VMs around for failover, you're down to a max of 6 on each server before buying DC makes sense.

                                    Yea, we were talking about the most that can run on a machine including all DR/Maintenance issues.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
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                                      @brianlittlejohn said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      That 12 VMs isn't just 12 on a single host for normal operations - if the plan is to move VMs around for failover, you're down to a max of 6 on each server before buying DC makes sense.

                                      Yea, we were talking about the most that can run on a machine including all DR/Maintenance issues.

                                      In that case, you're limited to 6 VMs per host otherwise you're better off buying DC for each server.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @brianlittlejohn said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        That 12 VMs isn't just 12 on a single host for normal operations - if the plan is to move VMs around for failover, you're down to a max of 6 on each server before buying DC makes sense.

                                        Yea, we were talking about the most that can run on a machine including all DR/Maintenance issues.

                                        In that case, you're limited to 6 VMs per host otherwise you're better off buying DC for each server.

                                        Only if you want them to float individually. If you only move them at the time of a system failure, the licenses would migrate to the new host with you.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @brianlittlejohn said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          That 12 VMs isn't just 12 on a single host for normal operations - if the plan is to move VMs around for failover, you're down to a max of 6 on each server before buying DC makes sense.

                                          Yea, we were talking about the most that can run on a machine including all DR/Maintenance issues.

                                          In that case, you're limited to 6 VMs per host otherwise you're better off buying DC for each server.

                                          Only if you want them to float individually. If you only move them at the time of a system failure, the licenses would migrate to the new host with you.

                                          The point is that moving the license at time of failure means you are restricted to every 90 days. This discussion is around where the cut over is to be basically as flexible as datacenter, yet not purchasing datacenter.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @brianlittlejohn said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            That 12 VMs isn't just 12 on a single host for normal operations - if the plan is to move VMs around for failover, you're down to a max of 6 on each server before buying DC makes sense.

                                            Yea, we were talking about the most that can run on a machine including all DR/Maintenance issues.

                                            In that case, you're limited to 6 VMs per host otherwise you're better off buying DC for each server.

                                            Only if you want them to float individually. If you only move them at the time of a system failure, the licenses would migrate to the new host with you.

                                            Also, in addition to JB's post, You can't move them back after the failure is resolved for 90 days, legally. If you can afford to live without the second server for those 90 days, then why have the second server in first place, just build a better single server.

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