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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
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      Onto SERVERS!

      SERVER licenses can be purchased in three ways: OEM, retail, and VL.

      OEM server licenses have the same restrictions as desktop licenses in that they are tied to the machine.
      QUESTION1: can you backup an OEM server and image it to another OEM server?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said:

        QUESTION1: can you backup an OEM server and image it to another OEM server?

        No, there is truly no use case for buying an OEM license for server. Just act like it doesn't exist.

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller

          Well it's an easy checkmark on the ordering page. 😉

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
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            So perhaps it would be easier for someone to present a Cliff Notes version of the server version of retail and VL. (And SA, too, since a lot of people seem to like it for servers.)

            I can try, but I have a feeling I am going to get a lot wrong.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill said:

              @scottalanmiller

              Well it's an easy checkmark on the ordering page. 😉

              That's why they do it. OEM is a great example of vendors not having your interest at heart.

              Technically if you have extremely predictable workloads and are using DevOps tools and move everything using containers and... no nevermind, there really is no effective way to make OEM Server not completely crazy.

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              • brianlittlejohnB
                brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller I would just assume retail doesnt exist as well. I only consider VL licensing for servers.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill said:

                  So perhaps it would be easier for someone to present a Cliff Notes version of the server version of retail and VL. (And SA, too, since a lot of people seem to like it for servers.)

                  I can try, but I have a feeling I am going to get a lot wrong.

                  Basically retail only exists for customers who have not gotten big enough to get a VL license which, in theory, it basically no one.

                  Get servers through VL and only VL. You need CALs, that gets you into the VL range. So if you need a server, you need VL and it saves you money. So while I could come up with extremely fringe use cases for retail, it's really just academic.

                  In the real world, desktops are OEM and servers are VL.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                    @brianlittlejohn said:

                    @scottalanmiller I would just assume retail doesnt exist as well. I only consider VL licensing for servers.

                    Yup. I'd actually put that way up in the thread. OEM for desktops, VL for servers and ignore all others. They are special cases at best.

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                    • Reid CooperR
                      Reid Cooper
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                      Retail and OEM for servers are really pointless. Just too expensive to justify.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        So VL is the only real way to go on the server front. Got it.

                        For desktops, there is only a VL UPGRADE license. For servers, there is a base license, correct? And also an upgrade license?

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                        • brianlittlejohnB
                          brianlittlejohn @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill servers don't have upgrade licenses.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @brianlittlejohn
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                            @brianlittlejohn said:

                            @BRRABill servers don't have upgrade licenses.

                            So to go from 2008 to 2012 you need to totall y repurchase a license for 2012?

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                            • brianlittlejohnB
                              brianlittlejohn @BRRABill
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                              @BRRABill Yes, and CALs

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said:

                                @brianlittlejohn said:

                                @BRRABill servers don't have upgrade licenses.

                                So to go from 2008 to 2012 you need to totall y repurchase a license for 2012?

                                Unless you have SA for it. SA provides an upgrade path.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @brianlittlejohn
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                                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                                  @BRRABill Yes, and CALs

                                  Well that makes it pretty darn simple.

                                  Are there any company wide VL rights you get on the server level? Assuming you can move licenses around? (But only every 90 days, or if that something else?) Restore an image to another machine?

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                                  • brianlittlejohnB
                                    brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller That is true... SA does. I've done the math for my org, and it isnt worth it.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      Are there any company wide VL rights you get on the server level? Assuming you can move licenses around? (But only every 90 days, or if that something else?) Restore an image to another machine?

                                      Company wide licensing would normally be an Enterprise Agreement. Otherwise you are buying licenses for what you need.

                                      Licensing the servers themselves you would need EA to move around, I believe. But to move workloads around you get DC licensing per machine and then the workloads can move to year heart's content.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill
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                                        What is DC again?

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          What is DC again?

                                          Datacenter Edition

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill
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                                            I think I read either here (or elsewhere like in the below link) you can legally move the VL around once every 90 days.

                                            So say I only have 1 license and my server dies, I can BMR to new hardware and move the license.

                                            http://www.aidanfinn.com/?p=13090

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