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      Jason Banned @thanksajdotcom
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      @thanksajdotcom said:

      I talked to my former tech supervisor who proceeded to tell me sales were great, computer work was great, and things were fine and doing just well without me and how I made his life difficult when I was there and that is he was basically better off without me.

      However, the narrative I've heard from others is very different. My former GM called me and texted me today saying he has a "business proposal" for me. I also heard, through the grapevine, that the sales manager is fed up with the tech supervisor!

      Staples has been and is running with out you, so don't go in with the attitude of they need you and can't run without you. They Can and will. They are doing you a favor, not you doing them one.

      Your ego is the biggest issue here.

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        thanksajdotcom
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        So I don't consider it beneath me to stock shelves. Not at all. It's an important job and it needs to be done, and I still contribute towards it in a big way. My point is that there is only so much time in a day. And in a day, there are some employees that are very lazy. There are tasks that only I can do that others can't. So if I have to choose between doing two equally important tasks, one that only I can do and one that anyone can do, I prioritize based on ability. If I'm not there, some tasks are not getting done. But other tasks can still be accomplished. Going back, assuming it goes through, will be interesting. As much as people don't always agree with my methods, they never argue that it achieves the results, which is, again, why I'm being told that they want me back.

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        • thanksajdotcomT
          thanksajdotcom
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          I should add that the current sales manager has been a career operations manager and is only in that role because the operations manager role was already filled. But when I've worked there, she has often filled me in on what's going on from her level and standpoint and then has kind of left it to me to see it's done. It's very much an unspoken and unwritten agreement, but the result is she looks good. Anytime I have ever heard about them wanting me back, it's almost always been because they need someone technical, they are REALLY short-staffed in tech, it's holidays/back-to-school, but primarily (but not solely) it's usually because corporate is ragging on them for not hitting sales goals. I left that store with us at the top of the district in percent to budget in tech at 141% for the year, if I remember. Where that number is now and where we stand will tell me a lot.

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            hubtechagain
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            so by that logic, there have been critical department crashing tasks that only you can do, that haven't been being completed since you've been gone? Dude, you've got a job as a worker bee, work. do what you're told. If you're a manager, then you get to think (as much as the GM will allow you to atleast) and manage your department. If you're not a manager, do as you're told. It's literally the least stressful position to be managed, your job is to do as you're told, as long as it's ethical.

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              hubtechagain
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              and you've also got to learn how to handle stuff on your own. There are many MSPs, ITSPs, whateverSPs around here that more than likely would never consider picking you up because of how PUBLIC you are with EVERYTHING going on. Scott is your mentor apparently, you should have had this conversation with him on the phone, via text, or email. IMO

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                thanksajdotcom
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                I went to the store this morning. The tech supervisor saw me and proceeded to utter "I ****ing hate you and despise you", which told me two things:

                1. He knew they were bringing me back.
                2. They are definitely bringing me back.

                He has been very much a jerk to me since I came back to NY, and I think he views me as a threat. I also have it on good word that he's been told he need to bring it down about 20 notches by my GM. My GM is taking me to lunch in two hours and we're going to be talking terms. I'm the one who have leverage here and I'm very happy about that. This is going to be good.

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                  Jason Banned @thanksajdotcom
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                  @thanksajdotcom said:

                  I went to the store this morning. The tech supervisor saw me and proceeded to utter "I ****ing hate you and despise you", which told me two things:

                  1. He knew they were bringing me back.
                  2. They are definitely bringing me back.
                  1. He didn't like your attitude.
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                    scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                    @thanksajdotcom said:

                    I'm the one who have leverage here and I'm very happy about that.

                    That's not entirely true. You desperately need them, they do not need you. They may want you, but the degree of need is vastly, vastly, in their favour. They have absolutely all of the leverage. 100% of it. The only advantage you might possibly have is that they may not realize that. But likely they do or you would not be having this conversation at all.

                    And remember, no matter what your impression or read of the situation is - that guy is your boss and they kept him after all of the things that you wrote when you were there last time and he is still your boss. So he has more leverage than you, no matter what. They decided then, since and still that he is above you. That's not some historic artifact, that is an ongoing decision and is current.

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                    • Bob BeattyB
                      Bob Beatty
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                      wow - crazy post A.J. Glad to see you have an opportunity. Sounds like you get a 2nd chance to use an opportunity to create success for a company and for employees you work with. Or... you could walk in Staples and say "Told you bitches, I was right, the company can't run without me!" Is that what I'm hearing? lol

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom
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                        Got the job. Now I need sleep. I'll keep everyone updated.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                          @thanksajdotcom said:

                          Got the job. Now I need sleep. I'll keep everyone updated.

                          Congrats. Did you negotiate much of a raise?

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                          • mlnewsM
                            mlnews
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                            Are you starting tomorrow? What's the schedule like?

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                            • StrongBadS
                              StrongBad
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                              Good luck.

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                              • thanksajdotcomT
                                thanksajdotcom
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                                Raise is TBD. I go in Monday to do paperwork.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @thanksajdotcom
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                                  @thanksajdotcom said:

                                  I have gained a lot of humility over the past two months.

                                  Doesn't read like it.

                                  @thanksajdotcom said:

                                  Overall, my values and methods line up with the ship's captain, aka the GM.

                                  He is not your boss. You are already disrespecting the chain of command.

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                                    thanksajdotcom @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    @thanksajdotcom said:

                                    I have gained a lot of humility over the past two months.

                                    Doesn't read like it.

                                    @thanksajdotcom said:

                                    Overall, my values and methods line up with the ship's captain, aka the GM.

                                    He is not your boss. You are already disrespecting the chain of command.

                                    He is everyone's boss.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                      @thanksajdotcom said:

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @thanksajdotcom said:

                                      I have gained a lot of humility over the past two months.

                                      Doesn't read like it.

                                      @thanksajdotcom said:

                                      Overall, my values and methods line up with the ship's captain, aka the GM.

                                      He is not your boss. You are already disrespecting the chain of command.

                                      He is everyone's boss.

                                      I understand your point but Jared means he is your boss' boss. Keep that in mind. Yes, he overrides your boss, but you have a boss and it isn't him.

                                      I have a boss too, it's @art_of_shred, yes @Minion-Queen is over me too, but the chain of command means my direct boss, the person called "my boss" is @art_of_shred

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @thanksajdotcom
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                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        He is not your boss. You are already disrespecting the chain of command.

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                                        • thanksajdotcomT
                                          thanksajdotcom
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                                          Whoever the MOD (manager on duty) is is my boss. And from what my GM was saying yesterday, he plans to mostly schedule me when he is the MOD.

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                                          • thanksajdotcomT
                                            thanksajdotcom
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                                            Not all managers are there all the time.

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