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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Jason
      last edited by

      @Jason said:

      No different than a cabling company suing to get back pay from someone when they forget to disconnect the service to the customer.

      It IS different than that, completely. That's not stealing in any way and because it isn't the government had to write laws specific to the case because theft laws did not cover it. Cable companies pumping signal into your house is not stealing if you do not cause it. That's like saying watching normal over the air television is stealing. Or that looking at people walking down the sidewalk is stealing. It's not, it's just RF signals in your home that you observe. Stealing implies you take, not it is given.

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        Jason Banned @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        @Jason said:

        @anonymous said:

        @Jason That seems like a bit much.

        No different than a cabling company suing to get back pay from someone when they forget to disconnect the service to the customer.

        Actually that seems like a bit much. I can see back charging for something like webhosting VPS hosting when it's quite clear the purchaser is still using them... but cable - How do you prove they were using it?

        Actually it's still a crime. Cable companes can detect which devices are watching, heck even some the newer stuff will report the Model # of it.

        0_1447164496086_upload-3686abb2-747f-4cc6-ab30-5a94e7fa9d4d

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        • IRJI
          IRJ
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          You have to love the 4 days notice....LOL

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          • 68biscayne6
            68biscayne
            last edited by

            I thought they were going our of business also, turns out it's just a change. I want to provide the full reply to others so as to show they are still selling, just a different way:

            Valued Customers,
            CloudAtCost has announced that the end of Developer and BigDog Servers will be Friday Nov 13th at 11PM EST.

            Already got one?
            Awesome!! Keep it forever and never pay agan.

            Still Want a Developer or BigDog?
            You can still purchase any Developer and Bigdog up to Friday Nov 13th at 11PM EST.
            These packages will be removed and you will only have the option to purchase CloudPRO resources.
            In addition we will also be ending the option to "Migrate to CloudPRO" at that same time.

            Dont wait!
            To migrate your existing server resources simply login to the panel at https://panel.cloudatcost.com, find your server you wish to migrate and select the "Migrate" option.
            Please ensure you backup your data.
            Once completed you can click CloudPRO and you will see all your resources you can start using.

            For a quick video on using CloudPro please see..
            Youtube Video

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            • IRJI
              IRJ @Jason
              last edited by IRJ

              @Jason said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @Jason said:

              @anonymous said:

              @Jason That seems like a bit much.

              No different than a cabling company suing to get back pay from someone when they forget to disconnect the service to the customer.

              Actually that seems like a bit much. I can see back charging for something like webhosting VPS hosting when it's quite clear the purchaser is still using them... but cable - How do you prove they were using it?

              Actually it's still a crime. Cable companes can detect which devices are watching, heck even some the newer stuff will report the Model # of it.

              0_1447164496086_upload-3686abb2-747f-4cc6-ab30-5a94e7fa9d4d

              Here is the difference the government is in bed with the cable companies. They have never even heard of C@C. Saying someone is going to get sued over a VPS is a bit extreme.

              C@C has their heads so far up their ass that they have no clue anyway. Even if they did decide to try to sue, it would get thrown out immediately once they say all the PayPal charge backs and complaints.

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @68biscayne
                last edited by

                @68biscayne

                LOL

                0_1447165197013_2015-11-10_9-18-39.jpg

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                  Jason Banned @68biscayne
                  last edited by

                  @68biscayne said:

                  I thought they were going our of business also, turns out it's just a change. I want to provide the full reply to others so as to show they are still selling, just a different way:

                  Valued Customers,
                  CloudAtCost has announced that the end of Developer and BigDog Servers will be Friday Nov 13th at 11PM EST.

                  Already got one?
                  Awesome!! Keep it forever and never pay agan.

                  Still Want a Developer or BigDog?
                  You can still purchase any Developer and Bigdog up to Friday Nov 13th at 11PM EST.
                  These packages will be removed and you will only have the option to purchase CloudPRO resources.
                  In addition we will also be ending the option to "Migrate to CloudPRO" at that same time.

                  Dont wait!
                  To migrate your existing server resources simply login to the panel at https://panel.cloudatcost.com, find your server you wish to migrate and select the "Migrate" option.
                  Please ensure you backup your data.
                  Once completed you can click CloudPRO and you will see all your resources you can start using.

                  For a quick video on using CloudPro please see..
                  Youtube Video

                  Sounds like a C@C marketing post here..

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                    Jason Banned @IRJ
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                    @IRJ said:

                    @68biscayne

                    LOL

                    0_1447165197013_2015-11-10_9-18-39.jpg

                    Yep.. Must be a C@C employee.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ @Jason
                      last edited by IRJ

                      @Jason

                      I gotta say one thing positive thing about C@C they have a determined marketing team...LOL

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                        Jason Banned @IRJ
                        last edited by

                        @IRJ said:

                        @Jason

                        I gotta say one thing positive thing about C@C they have a determined marketing team...LOL

                        A car wreck caused them to cancel the current packages.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Jason
                          last edited by

                          @Jason said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @Jason said:

                          @anonymous said:

                          @Jason That seems like a bit much.

                          No different than a cabling company suing to get back pay from someone when they forget to disconnect the service to the customer.

                          Actually that seems like a bit much. I can see back charging for something like webhosting VPS hosting when it's quite clear the purchaser is still using them... but cable - How do you prove they were using it?

                          Actually it's still a crime. Cable companes can detect which devices are watching, heck even some the newer stuff will report the Model # of it.

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                          Did I say it wasn't a crime? I very carefully explained that it WAS a crime, but only because they wrote a new kind of law to make it so because it isn't on its own.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IRJ
                            last edited by

                            @IRJ said:

                            @Jason said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @Jason said:

                            @anonymous said:

                            @Jason That seems like a bit much.

                            No different than a cabling company suing to get back pay from someone when they forget to disconnect the service to the customer.

                            Actually that seems like a bit much. I can see back charging for something like webhosting VPS hosting when it's quite clear the purchaser is still using them... but cable - How do you prove they were using it?

                            Actually it's still a crime. Cable companes can detect which devices are watching, heck even some the newer stuff will report the Model # of it.

                            0_1447164496086_upload-3686abb2-747f-4cc6-ab30-5a94e7fa9d4d

                            Here is the difference the government is in bed with the cable companies. They have never even heard of C@C. Saying someone is going to get sued over a VPS is a bit extreme.

                            C@C has their heads so far up their ass that they have no clue anyway. Even if they did decide to try to sue, it would get thrown out immediately once they say all the PayPal charge backs and complaints.

                            Yeah, notice the "passive theft" wording makes it only about cable services - because it is in no way theft.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @68biscayne
                              last edited by

                              @68biscayne you need to read the threads about CloudatCost. You would never, ever use them no matter what BS they feed you in their email ads if you were aware of the situation.

                              http://mangolassi.it/tags/cloudatcost

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                                Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @IRJ said:

                                @Jason said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @Jason said:

                                @anonymous said:

                                @Jason That seems like a bit much.

                                No different than a cabling company suing to get back pay from someone when they forget to disconnect the service to the customer.

                                Actually that seems like a bit much. I can see back charging for something like webhosting VPS hosting when it's quite clear the purchaser is still using them... but cable - How do you prove they were using it?

                                Actually it's still a crime. Cable companes can detect which devices are watching, heck even some the newer stuff will report the Model # of it.

                                0_1447164496086_upload-3686abb2-747f-4cc6-ab30-5a94e7fa9d4d

                                Here is the difference the government is in bed with the cable companies. They have never even heard of C@C. Saying someone is going to get sued over a VPS is a bit extreme.

                                C@C has their heads so far up their ass that they have no clue anyway. Even if they did decide to try to sue, it would get thrown out immediately once they say all the PayPal charge backs and complaints.

                                Yeah, notice the "passive theft" wording makes it only about cable services - because it is in no way theft.

                                Cause if it was someone leaving $5 in my house would be theft.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Jason
                                  last edited by

                                  @Jason said:

                                  Cause if it was someone leaving $5 in my house would be theft.

                                  Again, nothing like that. You can try all you want to support cable companies but it is super clear that no normal concept of theft applies to a company running a cable into your house and pumping unrequested material into it. Under normal laws, if the government was not providing special cases, you could sue the cable company for putting things in your house without your permission. Like adult channels. They don't have the right to force that into a home. I've had them put it on my antenna before. Claim all you want that changing channels is stealing but that's just lying. Cable companies only get to consider this a crime because of corruption.

                                  There is zero stealing involved if something is being pumped into your house without your authority or request. I'm not talking about splicing lines or anything, I'm talking about the cable company doing it.

                                  I've had cable forced into my home and sometimes you can't even know it is cable. If you can't know it is a crime, you know you are dealing with corruption.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Jason
                                    last edited by

                                    @Jason said:

                                    Cause if it was someone leaving $5 in my house would be theft.

                                    If you force money into my house, have no way to give it back, make it clear that it is your money and force it over time over and over into my hands but have no means to return it and...

                                    See how completely struggling you are to come up with something "theft like" to make it a crime?

                                    If I move into a new house and there is a $5 bill in it, by law, that money is mine, actually. So even in your unrelated, contrived example, it isn't theft.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @Jason
                                      last edited by

                                      @Jason said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @IRJ said:

                                      @Jason said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @Jason said:

                                      @anonymous said:

                                      @Jason That seems like a bit much.

                                      No different than a cabling company suing to get back pay from someone when they forget to disconnect the service to the customer.

                                      Actually that seems like a bit much. I can see back charging for something like webhosting VPS hosting when it's quite clear the purchaser is still using them... but cable - How do you prove they were using it?

                                      Actually it's still a crime. Cable companes can detect which devices are watching, heck even some the newer stuff will report the Model # of it.

                                      0_1447164496086_upload-3686abb2-747f-4cc6-ab30-5a94e7fa9d4d

                                      Here is the difference the government is in bed with the cable companies. They have never even heard of C@C. Saying someone is going to get sued over a VPS is a bit extreme.

                                      C@C has their heads so far up their ass that they have no clue anyway. Even if they did decide to try to sue, it would get thrown out immediately once they say all the PayPal charge backs and complaints.

                                      Yeah, notice the "passive theft" wording makes it only about cable services - because it is in no way theft.

                                      Cause if it was someone leaving $5 in my house would be theft.

                                      Is this really a crime? $5 is left on your counter and you see it but don't touch it... suddenly you are committing theft?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said:

                                        Is this really a crime? $5 is left on your counter and you see it but don't touch it... suddenly you are committing theft?

                                        Even if you touch it. Remember with cable theft you don't necessarily know that there is a cable involved, don't know who the provider is, did not let them in your house, etc.

                                        If stealing cable is a crime, does providing cable to be stolen constitute breaking and entering?

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                                          Jason Banned @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @Jason said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @IRJ said:

                                          @Jason said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @Jason said:

                                          @anonymous said:

                                          @Jason That seems like a bit much.

                                          No different than a cabling company suing to get back pay from someone when they forget to disconnect the service to the customer.

                                          Actually that seems like a bit much. I can see back charging for something like webhosting VPS hosting when it's quite clear the purchaser is still using them... but cable - How do you prove they were using it?

                                          Actually it's still a crime. Cable companes can detect which devices are watching, heck even some the newer stuff will report the Model # of it.

                                          0_1447164496086_upload-3686abb2-747f-4cc6-ab30-5a94e7fa9d4d

                                          Here is the difference the government is in bed with the cable companies. They have never even heard of C@C. Saying someone is going to get sued over a VPS is a bit extreme.

                                          C@C has their heads so far up their ass that they have no clue anyway. Even if they did decide to try to sue, it would get thrown out immediately once they say all the PayPal charge backs and complaints.

                                          Yeah, notice the "passive theft" wording makes it only about cable services - because it is in no way theft.

                                          Cause if it was someone leaving $5 in my house would be theft.

                                          Is this really a crime? $5 is left on your counter and you see it but don't touch it... suddenly you are committing theft?

                                          No, I was saying that's how the laws work for cable companies.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @Jason
                                            last edited by

                                            @Jason said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @Jason said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @IRJ said:

                                            @Jason said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @Jason said:

                                            @anonymous said:

                                            @Jason That seems like a bit much.

                                            No different than a cabling company suing to get back pay from someone when they forget to disconnect the service to the customer.

                                            Actually that seems like a bit much. I can see back charging for something like webhosting VPS hosting when it's quite clear the purchaser is still using them... but cable - How do you prove they were using it?

                                            Actually it's still a crime. Cable companes can detect which devices are watching, heck even some the newer stuff will report the Model # of it.

                                            0_1447164496086_upload-3686abb2-747f-4cc6-ab30-5a94e7fa9d4d

                                            Here is the difference the government is in bed with the cable companies. They have never even heard of C@C. Saying someone is going to get sued over a VPS is a bit extreme.

                                            C@C has their heads so far up their ass that they have no clue anyway. Even if they did decide to try to sue, it would get thrown out immediately once they say all the PayPal charge backs and complaints.

                                            Yeah, notice the "passive theft" wording makes it only about cable services - because it is in no way theft.

                                            Cause if it was someone leaving $5 in my house would be theft.

                                            Is this really a crime? $5 is left on your counter and you see it but don't touch it... suddenly you are committing theft?

                                            No, I was saying that's how the laws work for cable companies.

                                            Ah, got it I thought you were arguing globally.

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