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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      Also wondering, for people who have had compatibility issues, was this with the modern XML formats or the old ones? Microsoft's move to XML formats is what really changed things.

      For me it was old ones. I was looking in 2008, shortly after Office 2007 and XML versions came out, but before we started using it.

      You're making it sound like things are much better today.

      I noticed an improvement when the XML formats released. Don't know if things have improved since that point. I don't often see issues, but I don't often see attempts, either.

      Sounds like we need to run some tests!

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Romo
        last edited by

        @Romo said:

        @scottalanmiller Yes

        So can't be font related then.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Romo said:

          @scottalanmiller Yes

          So can't be font related then.

          These are exactly the types of problems that I saw back in 2008. Even as something as simple as what Romo is showing. Why are they different?

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          • RomoR
            Romo
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Romo said:

            @scottalanmiller Yes

            So can't be font related then.

            No, same computer same fonts.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Romo said:

              @scottalanmiller Yes

              So can't be font related then.

              These are exactly the types of problems that I saw back in 2008. Even as something as simple as what Romo is showing. Why are they different?

              Probably the same reason that web pages render differently in two different browsers. HTML and Word files are both XML markup files and Word/LibreOffice and IE/Chrome are really just XML browsers.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                That actually makes total sense and means we'll never be able to fully flow from one to the other without these worries.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  That actually makes total sense and means we'll never be able to fully flow from one to the other without these worries.

                  Not unless someone publishes an official "this is how it is supposed to render" document to follow. The rendering is a little subjective.

                  PDF is not subjective and avoids this problem.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill
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                    Yeah, that's the kind of stuff we also saw.

                    Our reports are all chock full to the margin of tables and charts. You can imagine what happens.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      Do you have any generic reports to send around? Would be interesting to see how they turn out in LibreOffice here.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Do you have any generic reports to send around? Would be interesting to see how they turn out in LibreOffice here.

                        Not really.

                        I will see what I can dig up and report back.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          I wonder what happens if we open and then save in LibreOffice. We should be able to make PDFs to compare their outputs.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller

                            I installed LibreOffice. I'll see what happens, and can redact some stuff and post.

                            Not today, though.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Good luck.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller

                                I just quickly opened one that looked complex and it looked fine.

                                I reached out to our word processing team to get some samples of really complex stuff.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Awesome. At least we know it isn't blatantly awful.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Awesome. At least we know it isn't blatantly awful.

                                    Well, one file does not a test make.

                                    Also, it HAS been 10+ years.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      It was probably OpenOffice too, not LibreOffice. Not that they aren't basically the same thing but LibreOffice, I think, has put more work into compatibility than OpenOffice did.

                                      And the LibreOffice 5 family is out now, too. Lots of advancements there.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        Second file I tried was messed up.

                                        Not terribly, but lots of issues.

                                        I wonder, though, if it was CREATED in LibreOffice if it would open OK in MS Office?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          That is the biggest question, really. And also, if it was saved as a DOCX or an ODT from LibreOffice.

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