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    dell storage ssd raid sata sas perc perc h310 perc h710 dell poweredge t320
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    • StrongBadS
      StrongBad @BRRABill
      last edited by

      @BRRABill said:

      As the keeper of the IT purse here, I've been proud we'll lasted so long on 10 years old servers.

      Oh no, you did it now. You are forever to be known as the "Purse Keeper."

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
        last edited by

        @BRRABill said:

        Part of the issue is, anyone can buy anything. Or be recommended to buy anything. But it is optimal?

        Absolutely, it is all about finding the right solution for your individual situation. This is why I hate budgets, they encourage you to potentially not spend as much as you need to OR to spend as much as you can rather than saving as much as makes sense.

        I can buy a Ferrari to commute to work but just because I can doesn't make it a good decision. I can take the bus and save a lot of money, too.

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        • StrongBadS
          StrongBad
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          Have you looked into hosted email options? For just fifteen users that would be pretty cheap and would eliminate an entire workload from your servers that you have in house. Most hosted email offerings are about four dollars a month, so that would be sixty dollars a month and cover the software, hosting, support, storage and whatnot. Might be worth looking into that option now while doing a big refresh. That would potentially really change what you are looking at as your needs internally.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Did we mention yet the option of looking at refurbed gear like xByte has? Will save some money and make things easier. If you are willing to forego the SSDs, you might be able to get into a server for far less and get fully supported NL-SAS drives for cheap and get all of the alerting and stuff.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
              last edited by

              @BRRABill said:

              It sounds like the recommendation as of now is (hardware independent)

              1. Move the data and mail servers into VMs on the new DELL server.
              2. Use the data server as the DC and VPN server.
              3. Roll without a backup DC.
              • Windows Server 2012 R2 or wait for 2016 to release before making a big upgrade right before a major release
              • Two VMs on a single piece of hardware. Very low cost use of the licenses.
              • Move data and AD DC to a single VM
              • Move email to another VM or go hosted as @StrongBad mentioned
              • Roll without a DC
              • Make sure you have a good backup strategy
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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill @StrongBad
                last edited by

                @StrongBad said:

                Oh no, you did it now. You are forever to be known as the "Purse Keeper."

                Always loved your videos. I'll take that from you. Haha.

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                • StrongBadS
                  StrongBad
                  last edited by

                  Don't forget my video game too!

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @StrongBad
                    last edited by

                    @StrongBad said:

                    Don't forget my video game too!

                    That I never saw.

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                    • StrongBadS
                      StrongBad @BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      @BRRABill said:

                      @StrongBad said:

                      Don't forget my video game too!

                      That I never saw.

                      What!!

                      http://www.gog.com/game/strong_bads_cool_game_for_attractive_people

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        You can move to Rackspace for $1-2/user/month (depending on the spiceworks deal going on now)

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Xbyte has the T320 as well.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @StrongBad
                            last edited by

                            @StrongBad said:

                            Have you looked into hosted email options? For just fifteen users that would be pretty cheap and would eliminate an entire workload from your servers that you have in house. Most hosted email offerings are about four dollars a month, so that would be sixty dollars a month and cover the software, hosting, support, storage and whatnot. Might be worth looking into that option now while doing a big refresh. That would potentially really change what you are looking at as your needs internally.

                            I've thought about it, but for various reasons I do not want to go that route now. MDaemon has been great for us.

                            It's definitely in the future cards, though. We've been burned a few times with week-long power losses.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Xbyte has the T320 as well.

                              Who is this Xbyte, exactly?

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said:

                                week-long power losses.

                                Good grief

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                                • MattSpellerM
                                  MattSpeller @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  Who is this Xbyte, exactly?

                                  Cheap recertified Dell servers - used pretty extensively around here & well regarded

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill @MattSpeller
                                    last edited by

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    week-long power losses.

                                    Good grief

                                    Notice the -es in that.

                                    Happened twice in the span of 3 years.

                                    I guess that is a good barometer of how we operate here. We knew the storms were coming, so I made sure everyone had a alternative e-mail address. We were also able to access our backups in the cloud, so I could grab any files anyone needed.

                                    Kludgy, but it works.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @MattSpeller
                                      last edited by

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      Cheap recertified Dell servers - used pretty extensively around here & well regarded

                                      I saw on Spiceworks that their SSDs are certified or something, so maybe their drives might fix my original issue.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        week-long power losses.

                                        Good grief

                                        Notice the -es in that.

                                        Happened twice in the span of 3 years.

                                        I guess that is a good barometer of how we operate here. We knew the storms were coming, so I made sure everyone had a alternative e-mail address. We were also able to access our backups in the cloud, so I could grab any files anyone needed.

                                        Kludgy, but it works.

                                        Wow - you should move everything to a colocated DC... use ZeroTier and have nothing onsite... then you can work from anywhere. Then to fix your phone system to do the same.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          Cheap recertified Dell servers - used pretty extensively around here & well regarded

                                          I saw on Spiceworks that their SSDs are certified or something, so maybe their drives might fix my original issue.

                                          They aren't "certified", they are actually Dell drives.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            They aren't "certified", they are actually Dell drives.

                                            I think they ones the sell are EDGE brand??

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