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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      Rule of thumb with DIDs, and it is just a general rule, but fewer is better. DIDs are not free and they are limiting as far as lock in and such. And they are an old way of thinking. People rarely expect direct access numbers anymore, they understand that people have extensions. Makes you look like a big company. DIDs for every person is very "SMB" thinking. Makes people feel like you have POTS lines.

      huh - When I don't get a DID I just think a company is either cheap or they don't want their employees getting phones directly to their desk.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates
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        We also had Comcast give us a quote for their hosted pbx (just to see). For 8 lines, with only 4 having voicemail it was going to be something like $376 (including internet).

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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          @johnhooks said:

          I'm hoping to do this soon. We have an ancient Avaya system. The lines are maxed out and you can't hardly hear the people on the phone.

          FreePBX, blows that away, no limits, and free.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            @johnhooks said:

            I'm hoping to do this soon. We have an ancient Avaya system. The lines are maxed out and you can't hardly hear the people on the phone.

            FreePBX, blows that away, no limits, and free.

            Ha I set it up at home and it's already nicer than the phone system here.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              huh - When I don't get a DID I just think a company is either cheap or they don't want their employees getting phones directly to their desk.

              What "real" business lets you call everyone directly outside a few executives?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                @johnhooks said:

                We also had Comcast give us a quote for their hosted pbx (just to see). For 8 lines, with only 4 having voicemail it was going to be something like $376 (including internet).

                Yeah AND you'd be locked in just like a legacy phone system from the 1960s. Even if that was cheap, which it is not, that's crazy. I can tell you that NTG's hosted phone system is cheaper than that for 80 lines 😉

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @johnhooks said:

                  We also had Comcast give us a quote for their hosted pbx (just to see). For 8 lines, with only 4 having voicemail it was going to be something like $376 (including internet).

                  Yeah AND you'd be locked in just like a legacy phone system from the 1960s. Even if that was cheap, which it is not, that's crazy. I can tell you that NTG's hosted phone system is cheaper than that for 80 lines 😉

                  Oh it was insane. The "Sales Engineer" was telling me how he's talked with IT Directors at large companies and they really liked the system. Ya, ok.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates
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                    They wanted $10 a month for essentially a loudspeaker ringer for on the shop floor.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                      @johnhooks said:

                      Oh it was insane. The "Sales Engineer" was telling me how he's talked with IT Directors at large companies and they really liked the system. Ya, ok.

                      Where "IT Director" = "Guy getting paid to arrange other people to do IT on his behalf."

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @stacksofplates
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                        @johnhooks said:

                        We also had Comcast give us a quote for their hosted pbx (just to see). For 8 lines, with only 4 having voicemail it was going to be something like $376 (including internet).

                        did that include phones too?

                        Cox wanted $20/month/extension - but that includes them installing a whole new wireplant, switches, phones, etc. They manage the entire thing. At that price it's not a bad offering. They do offer less expensive options that allow you to use your preexisting networking, etc, but I don't have that pricing.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          huh - When I don't get a DID I just think a company is either cheap or they don't want their employees getting phones directly to their desk.

                          What "real" business lets you call everyone directly outside a few executives?

                          West Teleservices has DID's to a rather large percentage of their staff, if not everyone.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @johnhooks said:

                            We also had Comcast give us a quote for their hosted pbx (just to see). For 8 lines, with only 4 having voicemail it was going to be something like $376 (including internet).

                            did that include phones too?

                            Cox wanted $20/month/extension - but that includes them installing a whole new wireplant, switches, phones, etc. They manage the entire thing. At that price it's not a bad offering. They do offer less expensive options that allow you to use your preexisting networking, etc, but I don't have that pricing.

                            Ya it was for their low end phones. They put an edgemark behind our router, but don't do any installation of wiring.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              You can buy very nice, brand new phones for about $120. You can get cheap new ones for around $80.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Cox wanted $20/month/extension - but that includes them installing a whole new wireplant, switches, phones, etc. They manage the entire thing. At that price it's not a bad offering. They do offer less expensive options that allow you to use your preexisting networking, etc, but I don't have that pricing.

                                If that is over, say, 18 phones it is not a very good deal. That is quite a lot of money.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  You can buy very nice, brand new phones for about $120. You can get cheap new ones for around $80.

                                  Have you used any of the Ubiquiti UVPs?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    West Teleservices has DID's to a rather large percentage of their staff, if not everyone.

                                    Yes, we've established that that one, smaller enterprise in the midwest does not follow the norms of the Fortune 500 in the rest of the world very often 🙂

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                      @johnhooks said:

                                      Have you used any of the Ubiquiti UVPs?

                                      No, they are very new.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Cox wanted $20/month/extension - but that includes them installing a whole new wireplant, switches, phones, etc. They manage the entire thing. At that price it's not a bad offering. They do offer less expensive options that allow you to use your preexisting networking, etc, but I don't have that pricing.

                                        If that is over, say, 18 phones it is not a very good deal. That is quite a lot of money.

                                        Oh it's way to damned expensive - but it's a fully managed/hosted/etc solution.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @johnhooks said:

                                          Have you used any of the Ubiquiti UVPs?

                                          No, they are very new.

                                          I tried to find a some videos on them, but the only ones I found were unboxing videos. One guy had a video setting it up, but didn't have a pbx to connect it to for the video.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            Oh it's way to damned expensive - but it's a fully managed/hosted/etc solution.

                                            No "but", it's expensive. As someone who does that all for less..... 😉

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