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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      The DNS servers provided to the VPN client weren't reliably more authoritative with responses than the local connection DNS servers. I basically had to setup a host file for anyone who was mobile to ensure IP connectivity for them.

      That should not happen. I've done VPNs for decades and never ran into that issue. What was causing DNS to not work well when on the VPN?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Dashrender said:

        The DNS servers provided to the VPN client weren't reliably more authoritative with responses than the local connection DNS servers. I basically had to setup a host file for anyone who was mobile to ensure IP connectivity for them.

        That should not happen. I've done VPNs for decades and never ran into that issue. What was causing DNS to not work well when on the VPN?

        Maybe the fact that I have a split brain DNS?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          Maybe the fact that I have a split brain DNS?

          Split horizon, I hope that you mean. Split brain would mean that it is confused and handing out bad entries from a confused cluster failover.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Why are you using split horizon?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              Why are you using split horizon?

              I've actually never heard this term before - I've only ever seen split brain.

              Just to make sure we're on the same page (and correct my term usage):

              I have internal DNS for the same FQDN space and a separate DNS on the internet.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                I've actually never heard this term before - I've only ever seen split brain.

                Split Brain is a cluster failure condition. 🙂

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-brain_(computing)

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  I have internal DNS for the same FQDN space and a separate DNS on the internet.

                  Yup, that is Split Horizon.

                  Although I could see why that would be mistaken as a failure condition.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    What is the purpose in your split horizon? Why are you serving out something to the public from your internal DNS servers?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      Here is Microsoft calling it Split Brain.
                      http://blogs.technet.com/b/networking/archive/2015/05/12/split-brain-dns-deployment-using-windows-dns-server-policies.aspx

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Very weird. I guess they are either just confused or they are trying to make a point that it is a failure condition that should be avoided.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          If you do a google search for split brain DNS, you come up with many people using the term to describe this setup.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            If you do a google search for split brain DNS, you come up with many people using the term to describe this setup.

                            If you Google cloud you get a lot of peoples saying a lot of things 🙂

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              If you do a google search for split brain DNS, you come up with many people using the term to describe this setup.

                              If you Google cloud you get a lot of peoples saying a lot of things 🙂

                              Touche!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                So what is the reason for the split horizon? What external entities are getting DNS resolution from your internal DNS servers?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by Dashrender

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  So what is the reason for the split horizon? What external entities are getting DNS resolution from your internal DNS servers?

                                  Other than remote users, non.

                                  We have the same domainname inhouse for AD as we use for our website on the interwebs...
                                  Very little overlap, but email would be one of those overlaps.
                                  Externally points to our ISP provided IP, internally, of course inside IP.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Other than remote users, non.

                                    Why would remote users get different DNS responses?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Very little overlap, but email would be one of those overlaps.

                                      How is email affected?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        Externally points to our ISP provided IP, internally, of course inside IP.

                                        Only for the website, of course, not email. Why not have external uses see the website internally?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          Good point, let's start a new topic on Split Horizon DNS. When to use it and if it makes sense in your case 🙂

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