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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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      @IT-ADMIN said:

      great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

      It could. I'm getting ~ 40% compression on my backups at home.

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        IT-ADMIN @dafyre
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        @dafyre said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

        It could. I'm getting ~ 40% compression on my backups at home.

        Dear @dafyre, i have a technical question, if we boot from the bootable USB and restore the server using a previous system image, does this image format completely all server hard drives ???

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          IT-ADMIN
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          because it must be, because sometime we want to restore due to a virus took over the whole system and we want the system image to format everything so that we can put the restore point in a clean server

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @IT-ADMIN
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            @IT-ADMIN said:

            because it must be, because sometime we want to restore due to a virus took over the whole system

            I haven't had to do a full system-restore yet, but I would assume you would be able to pick and choose what to restore. If you are restoring because you got hit by a virus, I would assume you want to restore everything anyway.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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              @IT-ADMIN said:

              @dafyre said:

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

              It could. I'm getting ~ 40% compression on my backups at home.

              Dear @dafyre, i have a technical question, if we boot from the bootable USB and restore the server using a previous system image, does this image format completely all server hard drives ???

              That's what restoring a server would mean.

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                last edited by IT-ADMIN

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                @dafyre said:

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

                It could. I'm getting ~ 40% compression on my backups at home.

                Dear @dafyre, i have a technical question, if we boot from the bootable USB and restore the server using a previous system image, does this image format completely all server hard drives ???

                That's what restoring a server would mean.

                i see, i was unaware of how restore is made, so the restoring will format all hard drives, that is great

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN
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                  what about the built in restore points in windows 7 for example, you mean that if i select a x restore point it will format the computer ???

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    what about the built in restore points in windows 7 for example, you mean that if i select a x restore point it will format the computer ???

                    Neither case formats, both cases basically format. Format doesn't mean what you think that it means. Both cases apply a new image to the machine in roughly an identical way.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      @dafyre said:

                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      great then, it will save half of our storage, i think it will do the same in the entire computer mode ?

                      It could. I'm getting ~ 40% compression on my backups at home.

                      Dear @dafyre, i have a technical question, if we boot from the bootable USB and restore the server using a previous system image, does this image format completely all server hard drives ???

                      That's what restoring a server would mean.

                      i see, i was unaware of how restore is made, so the restoring will format all hard drives, that is great

                      Just the words.... if you restore the system, you are restoring all of it. It doesn't do a format and put files back one by one, it literally restores the entire system as it was with the original formatting in the image.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        From the way that you are using the word format, I can't tell if you are aware of what a format operation is so I can't tell how to respond. The entire drive is imaged, no format operation is run, the disk will be completely replaced as if it was formatted.

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                          IT-ADMIN
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                          i can understand that the new system image overwrite the old damaged one without deleting the damaged system image, it is like bringing the time back to the time that the new system image was taken

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            i can understand that the new system image overwrite the old damaged one without deleting the damaged system image, it is like bringing the time back to the time that the new system image was taken

                            Um, no. Overwriting and deleting are the same thing here. It IS deleting. How could it not be? Wouldn't going "back in time" delete anything done since that time?

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                              IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              i can understand that the new system image overwrite the old damaged one without deleting the damaged system image, it is like bringing the time back to the time that the new system image was taken

                              Um, no. Overwriting and deleting are the same thing here. It IS deleting. How could it not be? Wouldn't going "back in time" delete anything done since that time?

                              yes this is what i mean Dear @scottalanmiller

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                                IT-ADMIN
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                                anyway i guess it is a complicated process 🙂

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                                  Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  i can understand that the new system image overwrite the old damaged one without deleting the damaged system image, it is like bringing the time back to the time that the new system image was taken

                                  Um, no. Overwriting and deleting are the same thing here. It IS deleting. How could it not be? Wouldn't going "back in time" delete anything done since that time?

                                  Heck no. Here we can't remove failed backup or the log of the failed backups everything remains untouch as it was taken, even if it's bad and wasting space. Remove it and someone (or a virus) could be overwriting something to cover it's tracks.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Jason
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                                    @Jason said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    i can understand that the new system image overwrite the old damaged one without deleting the damaged system image, it is like bringing the time back to the time that the new system image was taken

                                    Um, no. Overwriting and deleting are the same thing here. It IS deleting. How could it not be? Wouldn't going "back in time" delete anything done since that time?

                                    Heck no. Here we can't remove failed backup or the log of the failed backups everything remains untouch as it was taken, even if it's bad and wasting space. Remove it and someone (or a virus) could be overwriting something to cover it's tracks.

                                    Meaning that the rollback deletes everything and then writes over it (essentially.)

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      anyway i guess it is a complicated process 🙂

                                      Actually no, it is rather simple. Often in IT things get confusing when they are simpler, rather than complex. SAN, for example, is super confusing because no one will accept how simplistic it is. They always read into it things that do not exist.

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                                        IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Jason said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        i can understand that the new system image overwrite the old damaged one without deleting the damaged system image, it is like bringing the time back to the time that the new system image was taken

                                        Um, no. Overwriting and deleting are the same thing here. It IS deleting. How could it not be? Wouldn't going "back in time" delete anything done since that time?

                                        Heck no. Here we can't remove failed backup or the log of the failed backups everything remains untouch as it was taken, even if it's bad and wasting space. Remove it and someone (or a virus) could be overwriting something to cover it's tracks.

                                        Meaning that the rollback deletes everything and then writes over it (essentially.)

                                        we are waiting for the gentleman @jason to clarify his point, is the restore format the hard disk ??

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                                          IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          anyway i guess it is a complicated process 🙂

                                          Actually no, it is rather simple. Often in IT things get confusing when they are simpler, rather than complex. SAN, for example, is super confusing because no one will accept how simplistic it is. They always read into it things that do not exist.

                                          yes sometimes we don't accept some stuff simply because they look to us very simple

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @Jason said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            i can understand that the new system image overwrite the old damaged one without deleting the damaged system image, it is like bringing the time back to the time that the new system image was taken

                                            Um, no. Overwriting and deleting are the same thing here. It IS deleting. How could it not be? Wouldn't going "back in time" delete anything done since that time?

                                            Heck no. Here we can't remove failed backup or the log of the failed backups everything remains untouch as it was taken, even if it's bad and wasting space. Remove it and someone (or a virus) could be overwriting something to cover it's tracks.

                                            Meaning that the rollback deletes everything and then writes over it (essentially.)

                                            we are waiting for the gentleman @jason to clarify his point, is the restore format the hard disk ??

                                            Let's define what you mean by format first. Can you provide how you are using that term so that we are clear?

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