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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      But a NAS is NOT considered local. NAS uses file protocol, so it will not work for your needs.

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      • IT-ADMINI
        IT-ADMIN
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        the limitation comes when you choose network shared folder
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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by Dashrender

          To get what you want, you will have to use a DAS or a SAN. The only difference between DAS and SAN are the protocol you use to talk to the device. i.e. DAS = SATA or SCSI communciation, SAN = iSCSI or other block protocol.

          *edited for clarity

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          • IT-ADMINI
            IT-ADMIN
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            ooooooh i'm very very sorry i confused between NAS and SAN

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            • IT-ADMINI
              IT-ADMIN
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              in this case i will content myself with DAS, because as far as i can see SAN is the most expensive one

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN
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                great, now i understand
                i made my decision, buy a DAS and connect it with my file server and i'm done 😉

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
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                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  in this case i will content myself with DAS, because as far as i can see SAN is the most expensive one

                  Well, that really depends. You don't have to do crazy expensive SAN. The Drobo 5n mentioned earlier might be perfect for this.

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN
                    last edited by IT-ADMIN

                    i think i will buy a RAID 1 DAS, what do you think ??

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN
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                      i want the cheapest option

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        the size of the business is very small, and the size of data i want to backup is about 500 GB

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          windows built in backup

                          Then you are right back to square one - your backups will be limited to one day.

                          no, i will have daily version of my backups because windows backup can do this if the destination is a local HD

                          You MUST stop saying local or network. You are confusing yourself. The options are only block and file. Block is what you are calling "local" and file is what you are calling "remote" and Windows calls "shared."

                          If you need using terms that don't make sense, you will keep making bad decisions because you can't differentiate the technologies properly.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            i have been using it for a long time, i think it is great
                            the only limitation that i had is how to keep my backup externally
                            now that i will buy a NAS, this problem will be solved 🙂

                            You stated that this was not true in the original post.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              ooooooh i'm very very sorry i confused between NAS and SAN

                              Did you read the article about understanding NAS and SAN that I linked for you?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                in this case i will content myself with DAS, because as far as i can see SAN is the most expensive one

                                No, you skipped my article. DAS, NAS and SAN have no price difference. Anyone telling you that they are different based on cost does not understand the terms and you should not talk to them about storage further. We are only talking about protocols here, that there is a cost difference makes no sense conceptually.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  great, now i understand
                                  i made my decision, buy a DAS and connect it with my file server and i'm done 😉

                                  But are very vulnerable to ransonware.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    Well, that really depends. You don't have to do crazy expensive SAN. The Drobo 5n mentioned earlier might be perfect for this.

                                    No, the Drobo 5D, a DAS unit, was mentioned. The Drobo 5N is a NAS and only a NAS. It is, in fact, the only pure NAS available on the sub $50K market. The only SMB NAS device made.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      i think i will buy a RAID 1 DAS, what do you think ??

                                      I don't think anyone agrees that that is a good idea, because you are unnecessarily exposing and limiting yourself. What is your reason for going that route?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        i want the cheapest option

                                        They are all the same price. You would have to look at specific devices. Most DAS, SAN and NAS are the same units in this price range. So it is all in how you hook them up, primarily.

                                        The cheapest option would be different backup software with a NAS for all of your devices to backup to, surely.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          the size of the business is very small, and the size of data i want to backup is about 500 GB

                                          For one server or all of the servers?

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                                            IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            the size of the business is very small, and the size of data i want to backup is about 500 GB

                                            For one server or all of the servers?

                                            of course one server, since i will use DAS,

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