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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Jason said:

      Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

      That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

      What about Veeam End Point Protection?

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      • coliverC
        coliver @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Jason said:

        Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

        That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

        What about Veeam End Point Protection?

        I'm having a bit of Dejavu here.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Jason said:

          Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

          That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

          What about Veeam End Point Protection?

          I'm having a bit of Dejavu here.

          Well I'm not going to say it can't be scheduled.. so there 😛

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Jason said:

            Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

            That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

            What about Veeam End Point Protection?

            Not decoupled AFAIK, in any way.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Jason said:

              Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

              That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

              What about Veeam End Point Protection?

              Not decoupled AFAIK, in any way.

              The risk though can be reduced by using a different user account and only using it for this one application.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Dashrender said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Jason said:

                Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

                That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

                What about Veeam End Point Protection?

                Not decoupled AFAIK, in any way.

                The risk though can be reduced by using a different user account and only using it for this one application.

                Yes, but that is the only gap that there is. It is fully coupled to the network.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @coliver said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Jason said:

                  Many look into Dell Appassure for backups. I don't think you pay for windows though so not sure you would for this.

                  That's going to be an issue. Everything that does decoupled backups is going to be non-free or require virtualization at least.

                  What about Veeam End Point Protection?

                  Not decoupled AFAIK, in any way.

                  The risk though can be reduced by using a different user account and only using it for this one application.

                  Yes, but that is the only gap that there is. It is fully coupled to the network.

                  Yes, that adds a huge amount of risk.

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN
                    last edited by

                    can i have 2 scheduled backup with veeam or it is limited to one schedule backup ??
                    i ask this question because i want to setup 2 schedule backup : one for data and one for system image ,
                    any thoughts ??

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre
                      last edited by

                      If you are using the Veeam Endpoint Recovery Free, it looks like only a single schedule.

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        thank you Dear @dafyre for the info

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN
                          last edited by

                          i need to know what backup mode allows me to backup the system image : is it entire computer or volumes level backup (then choose the C volume) ??

                          Untitled.png

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @IT-ADMIN
                            last edited by

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            i need to know what backup mode allows me to backup the system image : is it entire computer or volumes level backup (then choose the C volume) ??

                            Untitled.png

                            Entire Computer

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Yup, it's right in the description on the screenshot posted above. Entire computer is the only one that gets.... the entire computer.

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                              • IT-ADMINI
                                IT-ADMIN @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said:

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                i need to know what backup mode allows me to backup the system image : is it entire computer or volumes level backup (then choose the C volume) ??

                                Untitled.png

                                Entire Computer

                                Ok, is this mode backup everything including the data in all partitions ??? then the size must be very heavy

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @IT-ADMIN
                                  last edited by

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  i need to know what backup mode allows me to backup the system image : is it entire computer or volumes level backup (then choose the C volume) ??

                                  Untitled.png

                                  Entire Computer

                                  Ok, is this mode backup everything including the data in all partitions ??? then the size must be very heavy

                                  As big as all the files on your computer with overhead.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                    last edited by

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    i need to know what backup mode allows me to backup the system image : is it entire computer or volumes level backup (then choose the C volume) ??

                                    Untitled.png

                                    Entire Computer

                                    Ok, is this mode backup everything including the data in all partitions ??? then the size must be very heavy

                                    If you want a full backup, of course.

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                                    • IT-ADMINI
                                      IT-ADMIN
                                      last edited by

                                      but i think it is not optimal, because if i want to restore a 10 MB excel sheet then i have to restore the whole system ??? it make no sense for me
                                      it should be the possibility to have 2 schedule : one for system image and one for data, this is the best way to have a good backup plan, am i right ??

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @IT-ADMIN
                                        last edited by

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        Ok, is this mode backup everything including the data in all partitions ??? then the size must be very heavy

                                        Yepp. You can expect the first full backup to be about the same size as all of the data on your computer now. So if you have 2TB worth of data on your whole computer, then the backup size will be about that.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @IT-ADMIN
                                          last edited by

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          but i think it is not optimal, because if i want to restore a 10 MB excel sheet then i have to restore the whole system ??? it make no sense for me
                                          it should be the possibility to have 2 schedule : one for system image and one for data, this is the best way to have a good backup plan, am i right ??

                                          No, if you need to restore the Excel file, you can restore just that file.

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                                          • IT-ADMINI
                                            IT-ADMIN
                                            last edited by

                                            i think that backing up the C drive is sufficient to backup the system image without backing up every thing

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