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      technobabble @alexntg
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      @alexntg said:

      @technobabble said:

      I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.

      I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.

      That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.

      So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?

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        alexntg @technobabble
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        @technobabble said:

        @alexntg said:

        @technobabble said:

        I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.

        I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.

        That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.

        So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?

        The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.

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          technobabble @alexntg
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          @alexntg said:

          @technobabble said:

          @alexntg said:

          @technobabble said:

          I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.

          I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.

          That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.

          So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?

          The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.

          Thanks @alexntg

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @alexntg
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            @alexntg said:

            @technobabble said:

            @alexntg said:

            @technobabble said:

            I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.

            I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.

            That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.

            So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?

            The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.

            Combine this with Pertino and you'd have a cool setup.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              @alexntg said:

              @technobabble said:

              @alexntg said:

              @technobabble said:

              I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.

              I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.

              That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.

              So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?

              The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.

              Combine this with Pertino and you'd have a cool setup.

              That is exactly what I was thinking.

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                alexntg @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                @alexntg said:

                @technobabble said:

                @alexntg said:

                @technobabble said:

                I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.

                I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.

                That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.

                So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?

                The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.

                Combine this with Pertino and you'd have a cool setup.

                You don't need Pertino for this to work properly.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
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                  Pertino would remove the need to set it up for external users. This mitigates the risk for things like external attacks

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @alexntg
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                    @alexntg said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @alexntg said:

                    @technobabble said:

                    @alexntg said:

                    @technobabble said:

                    I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.

                    I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.

                    That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.

                    So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?

                    The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.

                    Combine this with Pertino and you'd have a cool setup.

                    You don't need Pertino for this to work properly.

                    Are you saying that you don't need Pertino because the offsite devices would backup directly to the CrashPlan servers, and not your local server... that makes sense, but then you loose the fast recovery time of a local store.

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                      alexntg @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @alexntg said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @alexntg said:

                      @technobabble said:

                      @alexntg said:

                      @technobabble said:

                      I used Carbonite for small business and recently had a dual disaster. I woke to my PC's SSD drive was borked a week ago Saturday. I turned off my backup rig (PC as a backup drive) and put the drive in a USB dock and lost the partition! Luckily I had backed up the backup rig to Carbonite small business. The disappointing part is that on day 8 I am only at 82% of the 250GB drive using a 16MBs Comcast business connection.

                      I too am looking for something faster for retrieving an online backup.

                      That's one of the good things about CrashPlan PROe. You can just restore the data locally to the server or to another machine.

                      So with CrashPlan PROe you have a RAID backup appliance plus online backup?

                      The backup database sits on a Windows server, not an appliance. Your clients back up directly to the server. If you set it up for external access for remote users, your server then becomes the online backup. Hybrid backup is also an option if you want to have a "cloud" secondary backup location.

                      Combine this with Pertino and you'd have a cool setup.

                      You don't need Pertino for this to work properly.

                      Are you saying that you don't need Pertino because the offsite devices would backup directly to the CrashPlan servers, and not your local server... that makes sense, but then you loose the fast recovery time of a local store.

                      CrashPlan uses secure transmission, so they could back up directly over the Internet to your local backup server. Additionally, you could set a bandwidth limiter on the CrashPlan inbound firewall rule so that it doesn't eat up all of your bandwidth. This is especially useful for environments where you don't want the end-user's computer connected to your network at all (such as an MSP's clients).

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @alexntg
                        last edited by

                        @alexntg said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        Are you saying that you don't need Pertino because the offsite devices would backup directly to the CrashPlan servers, and not your local server... that makes sense, but then you loose the fast recovery time of a local store.

                        CrashPlan uses secure transmission, so they could back up directly over the Internet to your local backup server. Additionally, you could set a bandwidth limiter on the CrashPlan inbound firewall rule so that it doesn't eat up all of your bandwidth. This is especially useful for environments where you don't want the end-user's computer connected to your network at all (such as an MSP's clients).

                        Do you have to publish your onsite CrashPlan server to the internet? or does CrashPlan act as a middleman like Skype used to before they decided to bend the will of the NSA?

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                          alexntg @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          @alexntg said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          Are you saying that you don't need Pertino because the offsite devices would backup directly to the CrashPlan servers, and not your local server... that makes sense, but then you loose the fast recovery time of a local store.

                          CrashPlan uses secure transmission, so they could back up directly over the Internet to your local backup server. Additionally, you could set a bandwidth limiter on the CrashPlan inbound firewall rule so that it doesn't eat up all of your bandwidth. This is especially useful for environments where you don't want the end-user's computer connected to your network at all (such as an MSP's clients).

                          Do you have to publish your onsite CrashPlan server to the internet? or does CrashPlan act as a middleman like Skype used to before they decided to bend the will of the NSA?

                          For backups over the Internet with CrashPlan PROe, you'd need to open up some firewall ports and make an appropriate external DNS entry. Your machines would back up directly to your server. CrashPlan PRO is the version that backs up to CrashPlan's hosted service.

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                          • NaraN
                            Nara
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                            You could use Cubby by LogMeIn and make the user's desktop, documents, etc. all cubbies.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              Here is an additional question regarding CrashPlan PROe. How well does it handle super sized files such as a VM backup? If I go with something like this for a private cloud I may as well get my Veeam backups included. How hard would it choke on something like this if the outbound pipe was say 10mbps.

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                                alexntg @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said:

                                Here is an additional question regarding CrashPlan PROe. How well does it handle super sized files such as a VM backup? If I go with something like this for a private cloud I may as well get my Veeam backups included. How hard would it choke on something like this if the outbound pipe was say 10mbps.

                                It wouldn't choke on the bandwidth (it works just fine on a T1), but would choke on the large file. You're welcome to try it, however. CrashPlan's great for end-user computers, but really falls short on servers. I recently was exhibiting at trade show on behalf of Quorum, and Code 42 was across the aisle from me. We got to talking, and realized that while both products exist in the same environment (backup), they do very different things.

                                The feature that impressed me about CrashPlan was its self-healing database. If it found a corrupt file, it'd remove it from the database and send a request for the agent to send over a fresh copy on next backup.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  Installed both CrashPlan Pro and BackBlaze. I like CrashPlan Pro much better.

                                  Just a bit of data to backup though..

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch
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                                    Have any of you worked with Infrascale? Either as a partner or simply used their service?
                                    http://www.infrascale.com/

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch Have not seen them before.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch
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                                        They also only have a coupe, of mentions on SW. Mostly about spamming people via email to sign up.

                                        Currently liking CrashPlan, but when I hear of things I like to inquire.

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