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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      P2V is very safe. It does not destroy the "P" while making the "V", it just makes a copy. So you can do it for testing very safely.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        • application server (8 GB RAM and has 2 HD with no RAID)

        So no RAID, no backups, no snapshots, no virtualization.... this is crazy.

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        • Reid CooperR
          Reid Cooper @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          • application server (8 GB RAM and has 2 HD with no RAID)

          So no RAID, no backups, no snapshots, no virtualization.... this is crazy.

          Now that IS scary. Is there a plan for resolving those issues?

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          • IT-ADMINI
            IT-ADMIN
            last edited by IT-ADMIN

            I know for sure it is very toxic environment and in anytime I may face total down time. But how I can deal with this toxic legacy system that I'm in
            Note that I may face a licence issue when p2v. Cuz the windows servet is cracked!

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @IT-ADMIN
              last edited by

              @IT-ADMIN good lord

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                last edited by

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                I know for sure it is very toxic environment and in anytime I may face total down time. But how I can deal with this toxic legacy system that I'm in
                Note that I may face a licence issue when p2v. Cuz the windows servet is cracked!

                Best answer might be to let them lose everything and to go out of business.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  • application server (8 GB RAM and has 2 HD with no RAID)

                  So no RAID, no backups, no snapshots, no virtualization.... this is crazy.

                  Wow.. just wow!

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller best answer for the good of the planet perhaps, but I am starting to feel really bad for @IT-ADMIN

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                      IT-ADMIN @MattSpeller
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                      @MattSpeller said:

                      @scottalanmiller best answer for the good of the planet perhaps, but I am starting to feel really bad for @IT-ADMIN

                      Thank you very much @MattSpeller for your understanding, I'm really struggling with this crazy business. The it infrastructure is very poor

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        I'm really struggling with this crazy business. The business and management is very poor

                        FTFY

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN
                          last edited by scottalanmiller

                          Dear Scott, according to my preexisting setup, is there any chance to virtualize in my situation?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
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                            Virtualizing now won't undo the damage that has been done to your existing systems, but it will make recovery easy in the future.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                              last edited by

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @scottalanmiller best answer for the good of the planet perhaps, but I am starting to feel really bad for @IT-ADMIN

                              Yes, he is in a terrible situation. The upside of the company failing, though, is that it would release him from his long term obligations there. It is actually in his personal interest for the company to go out of business.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                last edited by

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                Dear Scott, according to my preexisting setup, is there any chance to virtualize in my situation?

                                Possible but will be very difficult as you have no spare gear with which to do the conversions and no good equipment to run it on. But I think that it can probably be done with some creative work.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  Virtualizing now won't undo the damage that has been done to your existing systems, but it will make recovery easy in the future.

                                  He has recovered now.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    Ah, sorry I thought he was still having issues.

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                                    • IT-ADMINI
                                      IT-ADMIN @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said:

                                      Ah, sorry I thought he was still having issues.

                                      anyway, thank you for your concern

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                                        IT-ADMIN
                                        last edited by IT-ADMIN

                                        beside from my situation i have a question :
                                        let's suppose that i have i licensed physical windows server 2008 R2, in which i have some application and some SQL instances, if i P2V, is the VM i get will have the same license key ??
                                        i'm confused regarding licenses when it come to virtualization
                                        also is the new VM will have the very same application with SQL server and all configuration and license key ???
                                        i guess for this to work only one machine should be online (P or V not both otherwise i get blacklisted by microsoft) am i right ?????

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                          last edited by

                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          beside from my situation i have a question :
                                          let's suppose that i have i licensed physical windows server 2008 R2, in which i have some application and some SQL instances, if i P2V, is the VM i get will have the same license key?
                                          i'm confused regarding licenses when it come to virtualization

                                          It has nothing to do with virtualization. The problem is that you will be moving to new hardware, you will have the same issue if your hardware fails and you have to replace it. Any major change of hardware, including virtualizing, will cause the operating system to have to verify again. So had they virtualized originally you would have been protected, but since they did not they have decided on having yet another risk that they are not aware of - they can't restore even if they had a backup because the license will never work anywhere.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            i guess for this to work only one machine should be online (P or V not both otherwise i get blacklisted by microsoft) am i right ?????

                                            You are already blacklisted by Microsoft. What are you afraid will happen?

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