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    • Reid CooperR
      Reid Cooper
      last edited by

      Sounds like you are having a rough day. Get some rest and maybe we can get this fixed tomorrow. Has anyone noticed yet?

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        shybrsky
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        u should make a backup before u did this my fren ..

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          the problem is that the SQL service doesn't want to run, it gives an error

          that should be easy to fix
          go to services and double click SQL and look what account it's using.
          then create account on your domain give it a GOOD password

          then go back to the service and put the domainname\user for the username and type in your password.. and you should be good to go for starting SQL.

          thank you very much dude, you really saved me, the problem was due to SQL service not running because it was set to run using a local account, off course after this account was deleted the service cannot run, as soon as i changed the service logon account to domain administrator the service start successfully and the connection was successful

          ouuuf it was a terrible nightmare but also a lesson

          thank you @dashrender and thank you guys

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            Now that you have that working, don't stop there!

            Create a dedicated user account in AD for SQL. Then assign it local admin rights on the SQL server. The replace the domain admin credentials you currently have running SQL.

            Reasons for doing this: If you leave the Domain Admin user in there for SQL, if SQL is compromised, the hacker will have Domain Admin level privileges to your entire domain.

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              IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              Now that you have that working, don't stop there!

              Create a dedicated user account in AD for SQL. Then assign it local admin rights on the SQL server. The replace the domain admin credentials you currently have running SQL.

              Reasons for doing this: If you leave the Domain Admin user in there for SQL, if SQL is compromised, the hacker will have Domain Admin level privileges to your entire domain.

              thank you for your advice, but i no longer care about security since everything is fine lol
              as Scott mentioned: why i should care about the business if the owner don't care
              i fear if i change something now i may get an issue, so i will just keep everything as it is

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
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                @IT-ADMIN said:

                thank you for your advice, but i no longer care about security since everything is fine lol
                as Scott mentioned: why i should care about the business if the owner don't care
                i fear if i change something now i may get an issue, so i will just keep everything as it is

                Because you have changed the situation from what it was before. Before you upgraded to AD, the account was local, limiting liability only to that machine. Now if SQL is hacked, they potentially have full access to your entire network.

                Making my suggested change will at least get you mostly back to the previous state, but not fully.

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN
                  last edited by IT-ADMIN

                  ok i do what you told me but i have to restart the SQL service so that the new logon account will take effect, when the HR Dept finish working with the payroll application then i can restart it 😉

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
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                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    ok i do what you told me but i have to restart the SQL service so that the new logon account will take effect, when the HR Dept finish working with the payroll application then i can restart it 😉

                    Sounds like a good plan 🙂

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                      IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      ok i do what you told me but i have to restart the SQL service so that the new logon account will take effect, when the HR Dept finish working with the payroll application then i can restart it 😉

                      Sounds like a good plan 🙂

                      thank you Sir

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Glad to hear that everything is back up and working. Did anyone notice very much?

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Glad to hear that everything is back up and working. Did anyone notice very much?

                          hhhhh, no, the problem was solved silently 😉

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Glad to hear that everything is back up and working. Did anyone notice very much?

                            hhhhh, no, the problem was solved silently 😉

                            That's what I was wondering. Good deal.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              You had an entire day of downtime on this and no one noticed?

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                              • IT-ADMINI
                                IT-ADMIN
                                last edited by

                                i didn't contacted the technical support, otherwise the issue will spread out
                                fortunately i was able to solve it by your advises

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                  last edited by

                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  i didn't contacted the technical support, otherwise the issue will spread out
                                  fortunately i was able to solve it by your advises

                                  That's great. I'm glad that it worked out so well.

                                  The power of MangoLassi!!

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                                    IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    You had an entire day of downtime on this and no one noticed?

                                    only the one who was working on the payroll software was having a connection error, i told him that we have a problem in the server, so he stop working on it until this morning when things come back to life
                                    fortunately the issue occur at about 6 PM and we finish the shift at 7 PM therefor the employee didn't complain because he was about to finish his shift

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                                      IT-ADMIN
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                                      there is a big time diffidence btw qatar and US, when i post my problem it was early morning in US but it was the end of the day in Qatar

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                                      • IT-ADMINI
                                        IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        i didn't contacted the technical support, otherwise the issue will spread out
                                        fortunately i was able to solve it by your advises

                                        That's great. I'm glad that it worked out so well.

                                        The power of MangoLassi!!

                                        yeah, off course you are great guys

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                                        • PSX_DefectorP
                                          PSX_Defector @IT-ADMIN
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                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          You had an entire day of downtime on this and no one noticed?

                                          only the one who was working on the payroll software was having a connection error, i told him that we have a problem in the server, so he stop working on it until this morning when things come back to life
                                          fortunately the issue occur at about 6 PM and we finish the shift at 7 PM therefor the employee didn't complain because he was about to finish his shift

                                          People who know me know I'm a gambler. I go to Vegas all the time, I blow money at various casinos throughout the country.

                                          You just rolled a quick point on the craps table, you hit a blackjack on your first hand, you laid down $5USD on 21 red and it came up. You got seriously lucky. By pure chance you got out without anyone being the wiser.

                                          One of the things I tell lots of people is not to rely on luck to get you through a gambling session. But this situation, as a gambler, you need to know how to hedge your bets. Your gonna reach another problem and go head strong into it, like laying down $100 on a table without knowing what the game is. You need to think through the entire scenario, what will happen if you do this, what is your fallback position, what is your backout procedure, how do you know it's done and satisfactory.

                                          Remember, the worst thing you can do as a gambler is go and do things without thinking. When I sit down and play blackjack, I have a good idea about the cards, the odds, where we are in the deck, what is available, what is not available. I calculate the risks, rewards, and make my decisions on that. As one should do when working on anyone else's machines.

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                                            IT-ADMIN @PSX_Defector
                                            last edited by

                                            @PSX_Defector said:

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            You had an entire day of downtime on this and no one noticed?

                                            only the one who was working on the payroll software was having a connection error, i told him that we have a problem in the server, so he stop working on it until this morning when things come back to life
                                            fortunately the issue occur at about 6 PM and we finish the shift at 7 PM therefor the employee didn't complain because he was about to finish his shift

                                            People who know me know I'm a gambler. I go to Vegas all the time, I blow money at various casinos throughout the country.

                                            You just rolled a quick point on the craps table, you hit a blackjack on your first hand, you laid down $5USD on 21 red and it came up. You got seriously lucky. By pure chance you got out without anyone being the wiser.

                                            One of the things I tell lots of people is not to rely on luck to get you through a gambling session. But this situation, as a gambler, you need to know how to hedge your bets. Your gonna reach another problem and go head strong into it, like laying down $100 on a table without knowing what the game is. You need to think through the entire scenario, what will happen if you do this, what is your fallback position, what is your backout procedure, how do you know it's done and satisfactory.

                                            Remember, the worst thing you can do as a gambler is go and do things without thinking. When I sit down and play blackjack, I have a good idea about the cards, the odds, where we are in the deck, what is available, what is not available. I calculate the risks, rewards, and make my decisions on that. As one should do when working on anyone else's machines.

                                            yeah it was a good lesson for me, next time before doing any major change like this i will post it in ML to discuss with you the consequences, once it is approved then i will be ready to go
                                            for the approval of the management (because Scott emphasize on this) they don't understand what active directory mean or what an additional domain controller mean, they are really far away from IT, so they told me do what should be done as long as it is free hhhhhh
                                            for this reason i'm playing around with the servers and enjoy my time because no one understand what i'm doing (they understand only one thing : is the system down or not) so basically they know 0 or 1,

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