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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      @scottalanmiller .. Only if they had a Direct Dial to T3 support. Which they might if they are a partner of ESXi. But I don't have an answer to this.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said:

        @scottalanmiller .. Only if they had a Direct Dial to T3 support. Which they might if they are a partner of ESXi. But I don't have an answer to this.

        Seems unlikely if they are struggling with basic HyperV installs 🙂

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        • coliverC
          coliver @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403

          Ok sounds good. Agreed with your pricing info although I don't think that comes across in your list.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            Well I didn't say they had it, I just wouldn't say they "don't have a T3 support number"

            If I did then I'd be lying.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Carnival-Boy said:

              I always get advice from my staff and encourage them to tell me I'm an idiot and explain why. But at the end of the day the buck stops with me. I don't expect them to always agree with me, but I wouldn't be happy if they took that to my boss.

              I'm of the opposite opinion, I prefer to not have management block upward concerns. I'm not a manager, but when I am I like companies that encourage people to take their concerns "up the stack." Not in a sneaky way but in a "we don't agree, let's take this up a layer and see what someone higher up thinks of our concerns."

              Yeah I like this too. Though there does have to be a point where it does stop, and that's probably below the CEO or the Board.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                I would say it depends. If you truly believe the CEO is sabotaging the company, you should go to the board. If you truly believe the board is, go to the investors. Make sure you are confident when you go to that level, though.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  I would say it depends. If you truly believe the CEO is sabotaging the company, you should go to the board. If you truly believe the board is, go to the investors. Make sure you are confident when you go to that level, though.

                  Yeah, that might not be worth the effort and you'd be better off just finding another job. Upsetting the board by going to the investors will probably just end with you not having a job. Unless the investors beat them to it by firing the board.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    I would say it depends. If you truly believe the CEO is sabotaging the company, you should go to the board. If you truly believe the board is, go to the investors. Make sure you are confident when you go to that level, though.

                    Yeah, that might not be worth the effort and you'd be better off just finding another job. Upsetting the board by going to the investors will probably just end with you not having a job. Unless the investors beat them to it by firing the board.

                    Depends if you have any faith in them.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      I would say it depends. If you truly believe the CEO is sabotaging the company, you should go to the board. If you truly believe the board is, go to the investors. Make sure you are confident when you go to that level, though.

                      Yeah, that might not be worth the effort and you'd be better off just finding another job. Upsetting the board by going to the investors will probably just end with you not having a job. Unless the investors beat them to it by firing the board.

                      Depends if you have any faith in them.

                      I'm sorry, in who?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said:

                        I'm sorry, in who?

                        The "layer" to which you are escalating. If you have faith that the CEO has the interest of the company at heart and just does not understand what is happening, then go to him. If the CEO is hurting the company for his own interests but you believe the board truly doesn't know and is just confused, go to them, etc. But if you have no reason to believe that they care, don't take the risk.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          I'm sorry, in who?

                          The "layer" to which you are escalating. If you have faith that the CEO has the interest of the company at heart and just does not understand what is happening, then go to him. If the CEO is hurting the company for his own interests but you believe the board truly doesn't know and is just confused, go to them, etc. But if you have no reason to believe that they care, don't take the risk.

                          That's what I was saying, just not as eloquent as you.

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                          • StrongBadS
                            StrongBad
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                            Any reason why only these two options are being considered? If you already have HyperV, should that not be on the list of consideration as well?

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @StrongBad
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                              @StrongBad said:

                              Any reason why only these two options are being considered? If you already have HyperV, should that not be on the list of consideration as well?

                              Because the MSP screwed it up and now no one there likes it most likely.

                              Also, regarding the original topic, I would stick with Xen and dump the MSP

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                              • StrongBadS
                                StrongBad
                                last edited by

                                Makes sense. I'm not saying that it is a good choice, but seems worthy of inclusion in an evaluation.

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