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    • AmbarishrhA
      Ambarishrh
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      I have a client who wants to change their current Segate Black Armor to a new drive for 2 reasons;
      Its bit old i guess is more than 3 years, and Accessing files on MAC is painfully slow. I am waiting for them to give me admin access, to see if theres an option to enable afp on it. (not sure if it already supports afp). The slowness on MACs happens mainly on a huge folder of 1TB which is full of images. Windows, it loads faster, fairly easy, on MAC, just to show up the folder list itself takes almost a minute

      If they need to go with a new device, I was thinking about choosing Synology. Had given Qnap to one of my previous client, and he is happy with that. just 5 users for Qnap, basic mapped drive on windows.

      But this one has around 30-50 users, 90% on MAC and works with images and documents. Suggestions please.

      No central login system as AD or similar, so most probably i need to create user account on the NAS and map the drives. Total capacity of storage looking at 5TB.

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      • AmbarishrhA
        Ambarishrh
        last edited by Ambarishrh

        Oh! posted in the wrong section! 😞
        Moving it to IT discussions

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller
          last edited by

          We have 2x DS412+ and 2x large ones (12 bay?)

          The heavily used 412 has given us some issues, most of which are firmware related. Just finished updating it again this morning which has (so far) cured our most recent ills.

          Overall, I'd recommend them but they're not perfect by any means (and what is, really).

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          • AmbarishrhA
            Ambarishrh @MattSpeller
            last edited by

            @MattSpeller Sorry, moving it to the right section now before anyone else post here! 🙂

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            • AmbarishrhA
              Ambarishrh
              last edited by

              Mods, please delete this thread!

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller @Ambarishrh
                last edited by

                @Ambarishrh someone magic'd it for ya 🙂

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                • Minion QueenM
                  Minion Queen Banned
                  last edited by

                  Everything is in the right place 🙂

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                  • AmbarishrhA
                    Ambarishrh
                    last edited by

                    That was fast! Thanks guys for moving to the correct section

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                    • AmbarishrhA
                      Ambarishrh
                      last edited by

                      High speed and excellent mod! 🙂 @Minion-Queen 🙂

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                      • AmbarishrhA
                        Ambarishrh @MattSpeller
                        last edited by

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        We have 2x DS412+ and 2x large ones (12 bay?)

                        The heavily used 412 has given us some issues, most of which are firmware related. Just finished updating it again this morning which has (so far) cured our most recent ills.

                        Overall, I'd recommend them but they're not perfect by any means (and what is, really).

                        How does it work with MAC?

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                        • AmbarishrhA
                          Ambarishrh
                          last edited by

                          Also, once the main drive is set, i need to back this up to a readynas which is also one of their existing system. I think this can be done with some tools installed to watch the folders and move it on daily basis

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @Ambarishrh
                            last edited by

                            @Ambarishrh I've not heard anything bad, other than standard MAC stuff (takes a sec to populate list of folders, magnified over VPN)

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                            • AmbarishrhA
                              Ambarishrh
                              last edited by

                              Need to make sure that the device has afp support which I believe gives better performance while accessing it from MAC, plus the regular SMB for windows guys

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                If you want an appliance, Synology and Netgear ReadyNAS would be my starting point. Those are my top two picks in this range.

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                                • AmbarishrhA
                                  Ambarishrh
                                  last edited by

                                  whoever wants to see the interface of Qnap and Synology

                                  https://demo.synology.com:5001/webman/index.cgi
                                  ACCOUNT: admin
                                  PASSWORD: synology

                                  http://demo.qnap.com:8080/
                                  USER NAME: qnap
                                  PASSWORD: qnap

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
                                    last edited by

                                    @Ambarishrh said:

                                    Need to make sure that the device has afp support which I believe gives better performance while accessing it from MAC, plus the regular SMB for windows guys

                                    Mac officially uses SMB, not AFP. They've dropped AFP officially. I don't believe that they were seeing any performance benefits from it. It's a deprecated technology, but will continue to work for a while. But hardcore Mac users are all on SMB and have been for a while.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                                      last edited by

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @Ambarishrh I've not heard anything bad, other than standard MAC stuff (takes a sec to populate list of folders, magnified over VPN)

                                      That's not a Mac issue but a Finder issue. Replace Finder and the Mac has the same speed as elsewhere.

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                                      • AmbarishrhA
                                        Ambarishrh
                                        last edited by

                                        finder replacement for solving the access speed issues on MAC?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
                                          last edited by

                                          @Ambarishrh said:

                                          How does it work with MAC?

                                          Macs talk the same protocols as everyone else. SMB first, NFS second and AFP deprecated but included. There is no concept of "storage for Mac" anymore. That's an old idea.

                                          The only thing to be aware of is the Finder issue and that plagues all non-Mac native storage equally.

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                                          • AmbarishrhA
                                            Ambarishrh
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller Any recommended finder alternative?

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