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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @coliver
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      @coliver said:

      That one isn't as easy as the switch ports... Meraki doesn't really support SNMP, it says it does but I've never really found anything that can correctly read it.

      Yeah, go to Ubiquiti for better testing. Meraki falls above the home use category, but below the enterprise category. It's pretty low end SMB in a lot of its capabilities and features and performance (and support.)

      I have a tough time with Meraki. In some ways it's a solid SMB piece of gear. In other ways, their failure to keep pace with the industry because of products like Ubiquiti makes it, in many ways, fall solidly below the home line and actually become a level of gear that, even if it was dirt cheap, I wouldn't use anymore. Meraki started strong, but these days I'd list it pretty much as consumer gear. It's not "bad", it just isn't "good enough" to meet a minimum standard.

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      • coliverC
        coliver
        last edited by coliver

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @coliver said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @coliver said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        Might be worth looking into that. There are some free options for that. Ubiquiti and Meraki both have some built in options that are better than nothing. But you can use free tools to collect total traffic from them (at least from the Ubiquiti) that will provide you some historical numbers which should help a lot for correlating that. I would start by tracking when the phones are good and bad in a manual "log".

        My guess is that Solarwinds has something free and easy to use for this scale.

        The problem is that they are always bad. Seems to be every 5-10 seconds that they cut out.

        Wait, they drop from time to time or it drops after five seconds and never comes back?

        Drops for a few seconds every 10-15 seconds then picks back up again.

        OH! That is very different from what we've been thinking. Or at least what I've been thinking. That's a dropping issue, not one way audio. One way audio, or what is often called that, is that just one way gets audio. This is one way has audio cutting out. Not the same. Not sure how to term them, but I was thinking you were referring to a set up issue. This is definitely unrelated to STUN or NAT or anything like that, those don't "come back".

        This is almost certainly a WAN saturation issue and or packet loss issue. You are losing RTP packets or they are so late that they are thrown away. Pretty much this is your WAN or your SIP trunk provider. Nothing that you can fix yourself.

        I'm getting packet loss on the PBX which didn't exist on Friday when these issues started, it was just insane latency at that point, now I am getting 10-30% (depending on the ping) packet loss on the PBX. Oddly I don't get any of that on my desktop. Both are plugged directly into the firewall, the phone I used to test the 3rd party SIP trunk was also directly attached to the firewall.

        PBX
        2015-06-03 08_57_12-root@pbx_~.png

        Desktop
        2015-06-03 08_57_21-Windows PowerShell.png

        Both had been running for about the same amount of time and both had been started at the same time.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Wow, so now to track down the packet loss. If the desktops don't see it.... where is it coming from?

          What is the packet loss when trying to hit your firewall? What about hitting the router on the other end of the WAN?

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          • ?
            A Former User
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            Is the PBX still running in Hyper-V?

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            • coliverC
              coliver @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              Wow, so now to track down the packet loss. If the desktops don't see it.... where is it coming from?

              What is the packet loss when trying to hit your firewall? What about hitting the router on the other end of the WAN?

              PBX
              2015-06-03 09_21_29-root@pbx_~.png

              Desktop
              2015-06-03 09_21_38-Windows PowerShell.png

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              • coliverC
                coliver @A Former User
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                @thecreativeone91 said:

                Is the PBX still running in Hyper-V?

                It is, I don't have another option right now.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  So no issues hitting the local firewall. Now the other wise of the WAN but still "local"?

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                  • art_of_shredA
                    art_of_shred Banned
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                    You don't have a Broadcom NIC, by chance?

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @art_of_shred
                      last edited by

                      @art_of_shred said:

                      You don't have a Broadcom NIC, by chance?

                      All Intel.

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                      • ?
                        A Former User
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                        I really think it's related to the Hyper-V Nic Driver & Linux. Make sure the Hyper-V host has all windows updates installed. You could also Disable VMQ and Disable Large Send Offload Version 2

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @A Former User
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                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                          I really think it's related to the Hyper-V Nic Driver & Linux. Make sure the Hyper-V host has all windows updates installed. You could also Disable VMQ and Disable Large Send Offload Version 2

                          I moved to a different host last night. I disabled VMQ, not Large Send Offload though, I will look into that.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            So no issues hitting the local firewall. Now the other wise of the WAN but still "local"?

                            This is the WAN access IP address.

                            PBX
                            2015-06-03 09_29_40-root@pbx_~.png

                            Desktop
                            2015-06-03 09_29_49-Select Windows PowerShell.png

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                            • StrongBadS
                              StrongBad
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                              Tested that ping and did not see any errors.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Yup, testing from here and not seeing packet loss. Looks good at the WAN side, as far as the pure WAN link.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  I've tested it from my house as well and it works fine. So that tells me it is something internal.

                                  Have people had issues running a PBX on Hyper-V? I've heard about the linux driver issues that 2008 had, but I was fairly certain that those had been resolved.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch
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                                    I run PBX in a Flash and Free PBX on Hyper-V no issues.

                                    I have ran Elastix 2.4 as a demo on Hyper-V.

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @coliver
                                      last edited by

                                      @coliver said:

                                      I've tested it from my house as well and it works fine. So that tells me it is something internal.

                                      Have people had issues running a PBX on Hyper-V? I've heard about the linux driver issues that 2008 had, but I was fairly certain that those had been resolved.

                                      Are you running it as a Generation 1 or Generation 2 VM?

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @A Former User
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                                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        I've tested it from my house as well and it works fine. So that tells me it is something internal.

                                        Have people had issues running a PBX on Hyper-V? I've heard about the linux driver issues that 2008 had, but I was fairly certain that those had been resolved.

                                        Are you running it as a Generation 1 or Generation 2 VM?

                                        Generation 1

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver
                                          last edited by coliver

                                          More ping data all started at about the same time for about the same length.

                                          VM Host 1 - Windows and Linux Server
                                          Windows Server
                                          2015-06-03 09_54_06-ssi-mail - Remote Desktop Connection.png
                                          Linux Server
                                          2015-06-03 09_54_17-coliver@localhost_~.png

                                          VM Host 2 - PBX
                                          PBX
                                          2015-06-03 09_54_25-root@pbx_~.png

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            That really makes it seem like a driver or similar issue. Very weird.

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