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Weather and technical issues forced multiple launch scrubs Tuesday, but…
Four launches are possible from the Americas, and one from India.
Tuesday had the potential to be a pretty amazing day of rocket launches, with SpaceX, Arianespace, and United Launch Alliance all on the pad for their final orbital missions of 2019. Blue Origin, too, said it intended to fly the tenth mission of its New Shepard Launch system from West Texas.
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@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Weather and technical issues forced multiple launch scrubs Tuesday, but…
Four launches are possible from the Americas, and one from India.
Tuesday had the potential to be a pretty amazing day of rocket launches, with SpaceX, Arianespace, and United Launch Alliance all on the pad for their final orbital missions of 2019. Blue Origin, too, said it intended to fly the tenth mission of its New Shepard Launch system from West Texas.
2018 I assume?
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US citizen sues the Federal Government after being detained at airport.
A Southern California man has become the latest person to sue the federal government over what he says is an unconstitutional search of his phone at the Los Angeles International Airport.
According to his lawsuit, which was recently filed in federal court in Los Angeles, Haisam Elsharkawi had arrived at LAX on February 9, 2017 and was headed to Saudi Arabia to go on a hajj, the Muslim religious pilgrimage. -
@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Weather and technical issues forced multiple launch scrubs Tuesday, but…
Four launches are possible from the Americas, and one from India.
Tuesday had the potential to be a pretty amazing day of rocket launches, with SpaceX, Arianespace, and United Launch Alliance all on the pad for their final orbital missions of 2019. Blue Origin, too, said it intended to fly the tenth mission of its New Shepard Launch system from West Texas.
2018 I assume?
Not according to the article, but probably.
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
US citizen sues the Federal Government after being detained at airport.
A Southern California man has become the latest person to sue the federal government over what he says is an unconstitutional search of his phone at the Los Angeles International Airport.
According to his lawsuit, which was recently filed in federal court in Los Angeles, Haisam Elsharkawi had arrived at LAX on February 9, 2017 and was headed to Saudi Arabia to go on a hajj, the Muslim religious pilgrimage.That's not likely to go far. Courts have ruled that citizens stop being citizens when entering or leaving the country.
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@scottalanmiller The issue lies in that he was refused to be given a lawyer, was detained without cause and was arrested and illegally detained when he was in the terminal.
So while I can agree to an extent, this seems like it has some bearing.
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller The issue lies in that he was refused to be given a lawyer, was detained without cause and was arrested and illegally detained when he was in the terminal.
So while I can agree to an extent, this seems like it has some bearing.
Except none of that matters because of where he was. The point being, you have no rights in no man's land. The US doens't recognize the authority of the constitution universally. Constitutional rights only matter if you are covered by them.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller The issue lies in that he was refused to be given a lawyer, was detained without cause and was arrested and illegally detained when he was in the terminal.
So while I can agree to an extent, this seems like it has some bearing.
Except none of that matters because of where he was. The point being, you have no rights in no man's land. The US doens't recognize the authority of the constitution universally. Constitutional rights only matter if you are covered by them.
This is LAX, so while close to the coast, I'd have to see where the US border comes in. I know we've had this conversation and that people 100 miles in from the border aren't granted any rights when it comes to CBP.
Still this seems like an infringement on this US citizens rights.
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller The issue lies in that he was refused to be given a lawyer, was detained without cause and was arrested and illegally detained when he was in the terminal.
So while I can agree to an extent, this seems like it has some bearing.
Except none of that matters because of where he was. The point being, you have no rights in no man's land. The US doens't recognize the authority of the constitution universally. Constitutional rights only matter if you are covered by them.
This is LAX, so while close to the coast, I'd have to see where the US border comes in. I know we've had this conversation and that people 100 miles in from the border aren't granted any rights when it comes to CBP.
Still this seems like an infringement on this US citizens rights.
LAX is a port. The coast has nothing to do with it in airports. The "border" is inside of the airport. There is no citizen rights until after he is through customs and past security. This is how all airports around the world work. In order to be labeled an "international" airport, they must contain a zone that is "outside of the US" and subject to "any use of force desired with no rights".
Welcome to the world of international travel.
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller The issue lies in that he was refused to be given a lawyer, was detained without cause and was arrested and illegally detained when he was in the terminal.
So while I can agree to an extent, this seems like it has some bearing.
Except none of that matters because of where he was. The point being, you have no rights in no man's land. The US doens't recognize the authority of the constitution universally. Constitutional rights only matter if you are covered by them.
This is LAX, so while close to the coast, I'd have to see where the US border comes in. I know we've had this conversation and that people 100 miles in from the border aren't granted any rights when it comes to CBP.
Still this seems like an infringement on this US citizens rights.
Most of the US population lives in no man's land. This is not a new or surprising thing.
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@scottalanmiller He was already past security.
After clearing the security checkpoint, Elsharkawi, an American citizen, was pulled aside from the Turkish Airlines boarding line
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@JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller The issue lies in that he was refused to be given a lawyer, was detained without cause and was arrested and illegally detained when he was in the terminal.
So while I can agree to an extent, this seems like it has some bearing.
Except none of that matters because of where he was. The point being, you have no rights in no man's land. The US doens't recognize the authority of the constitution universally. Constitutional rights only matter if you are covered by them.
This is LAX, so while close to the coast, I'd have to see where the US border comes in. I know we've had this conversation and that people 100 miles in from the border aren't granted any rights when it comes to CBP.
Still this seems like an infringement on this US citizens rights.
Most of the US population lives in no man's land. This is not a new or surprising thing.
Yeah, anyone near an airport, near a border, near a reservation... the US claims an extended border zone many files from any actual border, making, in reality, almost nowhere completely covered by any law. But they tend to not expose that unless they would really get in trouble otherwise. But in the actual border zone or transfer zones, they don't hide it at all and do anything that they want.
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Therefore CBP should have no authority there under the same thing you just said.
He might as well ask the North Korean Gov't for assistance if the stance is International Law is the rule here.
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller He was already past security.
After clearing the security checkpoint, Elsharkawi, an American citizen, was pulled aside from the Turkish Airlines boarding line
You've got your directions wrong. He was INSIDE security, not OUTSIDE. All boarding lines are in no man's land, all of them (international.) He's not "safe" until he is in the unsecured part of the airport.
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
Therefore CBP should have no authority there under the same thing you just said.
He might as well ask the North Korean Gov't for assistance if the stance is International Law is the rule here.
Therefore he's COMPLETELY without protection. No rights at all. US Citizens lose all rights once they step into that area.
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The only chance you have at rights in that area is to be dual (or more) citizens and belong to a country that isn't the US, that has treaties to protect you in that zone outside of US constitutional law, and that is willing to militarily enforce them.
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Kroger-owned grocery store begins fully driverless deliveries
Road-legal delivery vehicles don't even have space for a human driver.
Nuro, a startup founded by two veterans of Google's self-driving car project, has reached an important milestone: it has started making fully autonomous grocery deliveries on public streets.
Fry's Food, a brand owned by grocery giant Kroger, launched a self-driving grocery delivery program back in August in partnership with Nuro. Fry's has been using Nuro cars to deliver groceries to customers near one of its stores on East McDowell Road in Scottsdale, Arizona.
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@mlnews shouldn't that be in Misc Tech News?
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews shouldn't that be in Misc Tech News?
Not IT related, still car stuff.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews shouldn't that be in Misc Tech News?
Not IT related, still car stuff.
Autonomous cars would fall into the category of IT.
