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    • NerdyDadN
      NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

      EU finds daylight savings time to be.... well just stupid.

      Finally, somebody sees it. Now the question is, are they going to do something about it? If so, will America follow suit? Probably not.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @NerdyDad
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        @nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:

        will America follow suit?

        lol no

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
          last edited by

          @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

          @nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:

          will America follow suit?

          lol no

          Sadly... Now if we as citizens just said screw it and stopped following this bad practice it would go away...

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          • KellyK
            Kelly @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

            @nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:

            will America follow suit?

            lol no

            Sadly... Now if we as citizens just said screw it and stopped following this bad practice it would go away...

            What is the most likely means of achieving this (since ignoring timezones isn't really possible for computers), is to do it a state at a time since we already have two that don't use DST iirc.

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @Kelly
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              @kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:

              will America follow suit?

              lol no

              Sadly... Now if we as citizens just said screw it and stopped following this bad practice it would go away...

              What is the most likely means of achieving this (since ignoring timezones isn't really possible for computers), is to do it a state at a time since we already have two that don't use DST iirc.

              Write a letter to the President. Maybe he can add to his list, right under his "Build a wall" list item.

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              • momurdaM
                momurda
                last edited by

                Why isnt ignoring TZ possible? All transactions done in UTC, no TZ data, everything would be so much simpler.

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                • momurdaM
                  momurda @Obsolesce
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                  @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  will America follow suit?

                  lol no

                  Sadly... Now if we as citizens just said screw it and stopped following this bad practice it would go away...

                  What is the most likely means of achieving this (since ignoring timezones isn't really possible for computers), is to do it a state at a time since we already have two that don't use DST iirc.

                  Write a letter to the President. Maybe he can add to his list, right under his "Build a wall" list item.

                  He would say something stupid like "Back in my day, there was only EST and it was better than the 24 TZ we have today."

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                  • NerdyDadN
                    NerdyDad
                    last edited by

                    Who said anything about getting rid of time zones? We're just talking about getting rid of Daylight Savings.

                    Time Zones functions as they should.

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                    • momurdaM
                      momurda
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                      Theyre just as stupid as DST

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @NerdyDad
                        last edited by

                        @nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                        Who said anything about getting rid of time zones? We're just talking about getting rid of Daylight Savings.

                        Time Zones functions as they should.

                        Yeah TZs are needed. To keep time of day mostly the same around the world. Daylight savings is just pointless.

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                        • NerdyDadN
                          NerdyDad @momurda
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                          @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          Theyre just as stupid as DST

                          So, what? We go back to clocks at the train stations? When ever the sun is directly over us, that is when noon is going to be? Everybody going to a single time would get confusing.

                          So if somebody in the UK wanted to arrange a meeting with me in Texas, they're going have to figure out when I am up and at work in order to attempt to schedule accordingly. Plus, what would make Greenwich Mean time so special that everybody should go to that? Because they were the first to establish the official time?

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @momurda
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                            @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            Theyre just as stupid as DST

                            Umm, WTF?
                            So who gets to decide where UTC is on a timezoneless world?

                            Humans are Diurnal and function based on daylight. This is why things like sundials existed before timezones were thought up.

                            There is nothing wrong with making "noon" be the local time when the sun is at its zenith for everyone.

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                            • KellyK
                              Kelly @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              Theyre just as stupid as DST

                              Umm, WTF?
                              So who gets to decide where UTC is on a timezoneless world?

                              Humans are Diurnal and function based on daylight. This is why things like sundials existed before timezones were thought up.

                              There is nothing wrong with making "noon" be the local time when the sun is at its zenith for everyone.

                              The other thing is that if you start setting your clock to a time sufficiently far away you end up performing activities in the same day (set of daylight), but are different days (calendar). Not really optimal.

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @NerdyDad
                                last edited by

                                @nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                Theyre just as stupid as DST

                                So, what? We go back to clocks at the train stations? When ever the sun is directly over us, that is when noon is going to be? Everybody going to a single time would get confusing.

                                So if somebody in the UK wanted to arrange a meeting with me in Texas, they're going have to figure out when I am up and at work in order to attempt to schedule accordingly. Plus, what would make Greenwich Mean time so special that everybody should go to that? Because they were the first to establish the official time?

                                I vote that noon for California is when the sun is directly overhead.... I called it first. You all are on your own.

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                                • NerdyDadN
                                  NerdyDad
                                  last edited by

                                  If you want to establish a timezoneless world, then why don't we all go to military time and get rid of AM/PM junk?

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                                  • NerdyDadN
                                    NerdyDad
                                    last edited by

                                    Lets go one step farther, get rid of the Gregorian calendar and go by Stardates, like in Star Trek.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
                                      last edited by JaredBusch

                                      You want to get into radical, then get rid of this stupid 24 hour day thing that mostly came from the Egyptians and the 60 minute concept that came from the Babylonians.

                                      Move to a proper base 10 time system.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @NerdyDad
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                                        @nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        Lets go one step farther, get rid of the Gregorian calendar and go by Stardates, like in Star Trek.

                                        Gods the Gregorian calendar is stupid as fuck.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by Obsolesce

                                          @jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @nerdydad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          Lets go one step farther, get rid of the Gregorian calendar and go by Stardates, like in Star Trek.

                                          Gods the Gregorian calendar is stupid as fuck.

                                          We should be using something that makes sense... like a solar calendar... based on where the earth is in rotation to the Sun. What else could make more sense?

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                                          • NerdyDadN
                                            NerdyDad
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                                            Current Stardate is 71583.1 based on http://trekguide.com/Stardates.htm. But I think we need to get our regional Star Trek expert in here @PenguinWrangler to make sure that is correct. 😉

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