Windows 10 Free for Upgrade
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@Reid-Cooper said:
@nadnerB said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I've never seen the Family Pack. Seems like a weird idea. Who would need that?
http://www.microsoft.com/australia/windows/offers/windows-7-family-pack.aspx
That's new to me as well.
Sometimes company's
Australia... sometimes.
It's usually more
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I remember the family pack - didn't MS offer that for Windows 8 as well to upgrade home users?
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If there ever was a time to not jump directly on a released OS from MS it was Windows Millennium and Windows Vista.
Millennium just never seemed stable to me. I think I ran it for about a month before I dumped it and went back to Windows 98SE, and quickly moved to Windows 2000 Pro when it came out.
Vista was horrible if you didn't have an OEM install. Now, once SP1 for Vista came out and MS went back to their old network stack, then life was good on Vista again.
I would not expect these kinds of problems with Windows 10.
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@Dashrender said:
If there ever was a time to not jump directly on a released OS from MS it was Windows Millennium and Windows Vista.
It's completely unfair to include Millennium because that was not part of the release series (it was a sequel to the already dead DOS family and not part of the current Windows NT family - it was never the "current" supported product, even at release time. So any logic for using a supported, new release would have automatically discounted it.)
I think that the ire around Vista is completely misplaced. Vista was rough, yes. But you have to give it credit, it was the first NT 6 release. It was rough for the same reasons that Windows 2000 was. Windows 2000 was NT 5's first release. Both were major version releases with big changes included a new kernel. But Windows 2000 was much, much worse than Vista. Vista was a decent product, more or less. Not great, no, but actually decent. Most people just disliked it because it wasn't XP which had had way too long to be overly established. People mostly just disliked change.
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So is the upgrade going to be free from OEM as well? That's going to really piss off HP and Dell. Upgrading the OS is one of, the biggest reasons for buying a new PC.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
So is the upgrade going to be free from OEM as well? That's going to really piss off HP and Dell. Upgrading the OS is one of, the biggest reasons for buying a new PC.
I'm not sure that I've ever known someone to buy a new PC to get a new OS (consumer.) I've always seen and heard the opposite, that people only get a new PC because they are forced to when buying a new PC.
The last upgrade, to 8.1, was free already for people on 8. Windows 8 was the last "paid" version of Windows. And it was really cheap. Windows 7 was the last full price version and that was a long time ago and very few consumers had Vista, from what I saw.
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@scottalanmiller I agree...and my simpler reasoning is:
Because your clients will be using said new fangled products and you look like an idiot if you don't know how to use the lastest software, especially if it's a brand new OS. Which is why I have been demoing W10.
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@technobabble said:
@scottalanmiller I agree...and my simpler reasoning is:
Because your clients will be using said new fangled products and you look like an idiot if you don't know how to use the lastest software, especially if it's a brand new OS. Which is why I have been demoing W10.
I agree, as IT it is rare that we can have a good excuse for not being as up to date on business technology as our users are. We should be the ones in the position of providing training, not the ones in the position of needing them to assist us. This doesn't apply to consumer technology, of course, at least not in the same way.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
So is the upgrade going to be free from OEM as well? That's going to really piss off HP and Dell. Upgrading the OS is one of, the biggest reasons for buying a new PC.
I'm not sure that I've ever known someone to buy a new PC to get a new OS (consumer.) I've always seen and heard the opposite, that people only get a new PC because they are forced to when buying a new PC.
Historically, a new Windows OS has seen a boost to PC sales, though some of those will be deferred purchases skewing the stats. Consumers always want the latest and greatest. Windows 8 was something of an exception because it was such a huge flop.
If OEM is included then I may look at refreshing our existing Windows 7 estate with new memory and disks rather than entirely new machines this year.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
If OEM is included then I may look at refreshing our existing Windows 7 estate with new memory and disks rather than entirely new machines this year.
Pretty much a guarantee. They can't claim that "most" are covered if OEM is not as it must cover well over 90% of all deployments. If I were to guess, it must be over 99%. Other than a few gamers building their own and a handful of IT people, who has anything that isn't OEM except very special cases?
